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Unread 01-29-2006, 09:53 PM   #1
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HaRav Kaduri ZT''L

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Well, I think most of us were rather shocked with the passing of HaRav Kaduri zt'l this past Motzei Shabbos...
The Rebbe had told him he would live to see Moshiach-he had been 108! On his deathbed he said that the time of Redemption is here. It's all a bit confusing to some degree.
The point of this thread is to discuss stories, anecdotes, Divrei Torah, and personal thoughts regarding this Gadol B'Yisroel.
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Unread 01-29-2006, 10:34 PM   #2
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The Rebbe had told him he would live to see Moshiach
I don't think the rebbe ever told him such a thing- (, or at least not in 1990 as the story goes)! The BEN ISH CHAI told him he would live to see moshiach. I wacthed the video of his meeting with the Rebbe and there was no mention regarding his lifespan at all.

Anyone have a proper source?

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Unread 01-29-2006, 10:36 PM   #3
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Heres the video from the meeting between Harav Kaduri and the Rebbe. I saw it for the first time a couple of weeks ago. It is very nice.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...2&q=rav+kaduri
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Unread 01-29-2006, 10:39 PM   #4
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Here is a report from Arutz 7:

(IsraelNN.com) Famed Kabbalist Rabbi Yitzhak Kaduri, who has been in serious condition in the hospital for 1.5 weeks, revived and spoke with his close associates for an hour and forty minutes after the end of the Sabbath, this past Saturday night. One of those people, Arutz-7 Hebrew radio showhost Yehoshua Meiri, related to Arutz-7 the rabbis words. The rabbi spoke in Hebrew; what follows is an approximate translation:

The Kabbalists will investigate my words over the recent months about the Redemption and Moshiach [The Annointed Leader of the Jews during that period] and will reveal the secret name of Moshiach which was revealed to me on Cheshvan 9, 5764 (November 4, 2003). The rabbi said he actually met the person who will be Moshiach, on that date.

The rabbi said of the Moshiach, He wont come and say I am the Moshiach. Give over the rule to me. Rather the Kabbalists would discover the secret name [of Moshiach] among my hidden [Kabbalistic] words and the nation will push him to lead it.

Meiri also described a ceremony that took place during the brief period the rabbi was awake and alert. With only four people in the room, the rabbi whispered Tzofanim Kabbalistiim [Kabalistic esoteric codes] to one of the four persons present, whose name we are not revealing.

Well-wishers can visit the Kaduri.net website. It is a Hebrew language site.
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Unread 01-30-2006, 11:16 AM   #5
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Heres the video from the meeting between Harav Kaduri and the Rebbe. I saw it for the first time a couple of weeks ago. It is very nice.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...2&q=rav+kaduri

What is very nice about it?
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Unread 01-30-2006, 07:10 PM   #6
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Boruch Dayan Emes. He was a inspiration to many people,
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Unread 01-30-2006, 07:37 PM   #7
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i also heard the rebbe told him he would live to see moshiach...im not sure who i heard it from though....
thats why it was a bit confusing motzei shabbos- cause' if he was told by the rebbe that he would live..then dont you think the rebbe's brocha would come true?
i seriously felt moshiach was gonna come that night...it was a really scary yet exzilarating feeling!
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Unread 01-30-2006, 07:51 PM   #8
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i also heard the rebbe told him he would live to see moshiach...im not sure who i heard it from though....
thats why it was a bit confusing motzei shabbos- cause' if he was told by the rebbe that he would live..then dont you think the rebbe's brocha would come true?
Again...No such story ever happened! It's an "urban myth". The source for this myth is from the video of his meeting with the Rebbe at sunday dollars in 1990, and you can watch the video and see for yourself that the Rebbe said no such thing[/url]. I already wrote this above. Why don't you read the whole thread before posting???

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Unread 01-30-2006, 08:04 PM   #9
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kookoo i actually did read the whole thread b4 posting... i just wanted to back up n'eNow770 that i had also heard such a thing!
besides why are you getting so offensive??? did you think rabbi kaduri only met with the rebbe once????
besides who says it has to be on video 4 it to be true? maybe it was a private yechidus.....
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Unread 01-30-2006, 08:10 PM   #10
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When did he ever have a private yechidus with the Rebbe? Not in 1990, and I am not aware that he was in America another time, and that he met the Rebbe.
Besides, lets not confuse a brocho (if it happened...) and a "promise" (havtocho)...
Anyway, if you look at some of the wackier websites out there, you will see that they say he claimed to have met Moshiach - on 9 Cheshvan 5764 (right YN?).
Or you can use this as proof that Moshiach came already...

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Unread 01-30-2006, 08:11 PM   #11
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cause' if he was told by the rebbe that he would live..then dont you think the rebbe's brocha would come true?
In order to say such a thing you must have a proper source that the story happened to begin with. I too heard the same story as you, but after looking into the source that was supplied I saw that it was wrong.

So where is your source?
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Unread 01-30-2006, 08:28 PM   #12
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kookoo your right, and i usually do qoute a source..although as i replied previously, i dont remember where i heard this.
i didnt say he did have a yechidus..i said he might have...
but I"yh i'm going to look into it!
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Unread 01-30-2006, 10:46 PM   #13
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In the past, when i was younger, i watched the above video, and wasa bit impressed.

Yesterday i sat and watched it in full, a few times. All i can say is that i am not impressed at all.
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Unread 01-30-2006, 10:57 PM   #14
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Did Rabbi Kaduri really meet with Moshiach? If so, was it on November 11, 2003 as claimed (or November 4, depending on which article one reads), or was it actually on November 4, 2004?
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What is very nice about it?
Just the images of two Tzaddikim meeting together is a very nice one.
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Anyway, if you look at some of the wackier websites out there, you will see that they say he claimed to have met Moshiach - on 9 Cheshvan 5764 (right YN?).
Or you can use this as proof that Moshiach came already...
Actually, many mainsteam sites and news sources are reporting that story that Harav Kaduri zt'l, said that he met moshiach. I posted one of those articles above, which was taken from A7. I don't really have a problem believing him. It makes me yearn for moshiach even more.
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Unread 01-31-2006, 12:06 AM   #17
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Unread 01-31-2006, 09:32 AM   #18
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In the articles put out when he said that Moshiach was going to come after the natural disasters, they mentioned the Rebbe giving him such a brocha . . . anymore I don't know.
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Unread 01-31-2006, 09:36 AM   #19
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Who said Rav Kaduri met Moshiach in Olam HaZeh on that date.
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Unread 01-31-2006, 11:42 AM   #20
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it's more like a article bashing shas, than anything about kaduri
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hey gevurah
never thought of that...with 2 great tzaddikim anything's possible!
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Who is to say whether Rabbi Kaduri met Moshiach on a given day except perhaps Rabbi Kaduri and Moshiach? The assumption of many seems to be that if he met Moshiach on a given day he had a face to face meeting with mature learned individual who revealed himself as Moshiach to Rabbi Kaduri. Perhaps Rabbi Kaduri simply met a young boy sweeping the sidewalk in front of a hotel whom Rabbi Kaduri recognized as one who would fulfill the prophecies of Moshiach. Perhaps he met him via correspondence or even some form of spiritual visitation. There are many possibilities concerning this purported meeting.

When assessing the plausibility of such a statement we need to be careful that we don't mix in "messiah's dropping out of the sky theology". It could have been something far less dramatic.
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...or they both met in a dream....
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...or they both met in a dream....
That could be possible, but I don't think Rav Kadouri would have made such a statement based on a dream.
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