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Unread 11-30-2004, 10:57 PM   #1
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City of Lubavitch

I learned once that the city of Lubavitch was named after a Jew-friendly Russian noble named "Lubav" (First name? Last name?). But I can't find where this is documented. Anyone know the details and sources?
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Unread 11-30-2004, 11:23 PM   #2
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Re: City of Lubavitch

I am almost 99.9% sure I was told that Lubavitch mean "City of [brotherly] Love" (Luba [love] Vitch [City of]).

Which is right?
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Unread 11-30-2004, 11:30 PM   #3
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The name of the city at times to times sounded differently: beginning from the foundation and up till now it sounds Lviv in Ukrainian, Leopolis in Latin, Leontopolis in Greek, Levenburg in German, Lvuv in Polish. The root in all the names remained the same the animals king Lion. It is also on the emblem of the city. A king soul of the city, sometimes calm, sometimes menacing, generous and severe were breathed in the old stones by its founder Danila Gaistky. And also called his son in the honor of Lvov.
http://www.toukraine.com/ARTICLE/CITY/LVOV/id=489
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Unread 11-30-2004, 11:47 PM   #4
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Re: City of Lubavitch

See the beggining of L Rebbe's Memoirs.
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Unread 11-30-2004, 11:54 PM   #5
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The name of the city at times to times sounded differently: beginning from the foundation and up till now it sounds Lviv in Ukrainian, Leopolis in Latin, Leontopolis in Greek, Levenburg in German, Lvuv in Polish. The root in all the names remained the same the animals king Lion. It is also on the emblem of the city. A king soul of the city, sometimes calm, sometimes menacing, generous and severe were breathed in the old stones by its founder Danila Gaistky. And also called his son in the honor of Lvov.
http://www.toukraine.com/ARTICLE/CITY/LVOV/id=489
you are mixing up two different cities - Lvov in ukraine (big city) and Lubavitch in Russia - small town
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you are mixing up two different cities - Lvov in ukraine (big city) and Lubavitch in Russia - small town
Thank for the correction. I do still wonder if the names are connected.
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Unread 11-30-2004, 11:59 PM   #7
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As far as I know - absolutely no connection. Lvov - the Lion City. Lubavitch - City of Love.
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Unread 12-01-2004, 12:35 AM   #8
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Re: City of Lubavitch

The (alleged) origin of the name is no contradiction to it's meaning!
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Unread 12-01-2004, 01:06 AM   #9
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Re: City of Lubavitch

But then it ruins the whole point of the name of the city!
If Lubav = A man named Love Then The name of the city is "The city of a man named love". Then it's about a man and not love.

(Anyways, his name would have to be Luba, no? Cause if it was Lubav, then it would be Lubav-vitch...)
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Unread 12-03-2004, 09:25 AM   #10
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Re: City of Lubavitch

Luba is a female name. As the FR doesn't say where the name actually came from, only that the name reflects the early character of the town, the actual reason for the naming is probably not known, and any reason such as noblemen ego is pure speculation.
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Unread 12-03-2004, 11:20 AM   #11
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Re: City of Lubavitch

So then it means "city of love".
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Unread 12-08-2004, 11:19 AM   #12
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Re: City of Lubavitch

"City of Brotherly Love"

And that's 100% correct.

But I do wonder where exactly it lies in Russia... Never found it on a map... Anyone know where I should look?
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Unread 12-08-2004, 02:37 PM   #13
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If I'm not mistaken, the border of Belorus (White Russia) and Russia proper.

If I am mistaken, then it's probably on the border of Belorus and Lithuania.
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Unread 12-08-2004, 03:48 PM   #14
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Re: City of Lubavitch

Lubavitch (lit., "town of love"; Rus.): townlet in Smolensk oblast, Belorussia, which was the center of Chabad Chassidism from 1813, when the Mitteler Rebbe moved there from Liadi

(Glossary to Likkutei Dibburim in English)
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Unread 12-08-2004, 04:05 PM   #15
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Re: City of Lubavitch

When the Mitteler Rebbe settled in Lubavitch, he was given lands by the philosemitic Russian nobleman who owned the city and the lands surrounding it. I think that I heard that the nobleman's wife or daughter was named Luba, which is why he named the town as he did.
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Re: City of Lubavitch

Again, that defeats the purpose of the Mittele Rebbe's translation then...
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Unread 12-08-2004, 06:26 PM   #17
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Re: City of Lubavitch

Not so.
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Unread 12-08-2004, 10:24 PM   #18
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Re: City of Lubavitch

the girl's name Luba also means love, particlualy when in full - Lubov =Love

so either way it's love.
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Re: City of Lubavitch

Yes, I understand Luba = love, but if Luba = Love and Lubavitch = Luba-Vitch, then Lubavitch does not just = "Town of love", but also "Town of the nice nobleman's daughter Luba".
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