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Unread 04-10-2006, 08:59 AM   #1
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Three piece suits - Yes or No?

I just got a new suit for pesach and it comes with a vest. I was wondering whether or not I should wear it. I asked one friend of mine, officially a "chassidisher Bochur," and he said a three piece suit is "outside of Judaism" (whatever the heck that means.) I personally feel, like, why not? I bought the suit, including the vest, so why not wear it? It gives a classy, well-dressed look. what do you think?
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Unread 04-10-2006, 09:17 AM   #2
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I just got a new suit for pesach and it comes with a vest. I was wondering whether or not I should wear it. I asked one friend of mine, officially a "chassidisher Bochur," and he said a three piece suit is "outside of Judaism" (whatever the heck that means.) I personally feel, like, why not? I bought the suit, including the vest, so why not wear it? It gives a classy, well-dressed look. what do you think?
I don't know what he means by "outside of Judaism" unless he thinks it causes one to be "overdressed." They were popular for a while in California but most people concluded they were just too hot for this climate. I always thought they gave a fellow a dignified look especially with a pocket watch hanging from the pocket of the vest. I don't think I have any 3 piece anymore but I still have plenty of pocket watches.
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Unread 04-10-2006, 09:44 AM   #3
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Not so popular with Lubavitchers, maybe, but the trademark of Poilisher Chassidim is the black vest!

Outside of Judaism?
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Unread 04-10-2006, 09:58 AM   #4
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When the above mentioned "chasidisher bochur" said the above mentioned statment, he was at a loss for words, and having a difficult time expressing himself, so his intention may have been somewhat different than what it seems to be. "outside of judaism" may have been his way of saying "es past nisht far chasidishe bochurim"

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Unread 04-10-2006, 10:33 AM   #5
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Shtusim.
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Unread 04-10-2006, 10:52 AM   #6
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What's shtusim? To wear a vest or to disapprove of wearing one? Or is the discussion shtusim? I don't think the last option is the correct one, because if so, you would mistameh disaprove of most CT discussions.
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Unread 04-10-2006, 11:01 AM   #7
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The disapproval is shtusim (though your last statement also has some validity...).
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Unread 04-10-2006, 12:26 PM   #8
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It gives a classy, well-dressed look. what do you think?
Well-dressed is one thing. Over-dressed, is another. (In this vestibule of Olam ha'Zeh, we are advised: Al tifrosh min ha'tzubur.)
Do you think the Rebbe wanted bachrim to dress classy?
Although you have a vested interest, vestalle, I would suggest that you divest yourself of the vest.

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Unread 04-10-2006, 04:02 PM   #9
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I don't think it's such an issue of classiness, as much as just dressing nicely for Pesach.
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Unread 04-10-2006, 05:26 PM   #10
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just my personal opinion, three piece suits were cute for boys about 10 years ago, for men - about 100*.

any problem with wearing one? no

*fashion years
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Unread 04-10-2006, 06:17 PM   #11
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just my personal opinion, three piece suits were cute for boys about 10 years ago, for men - about 100.

any problem with wearing one? no
Do you remember the mid 80's when they were very popular with men. The phrase was "he is wearing a three piece pin striped suit." They faded out about 1987 or so in CA but I think they hung on for a while in the Northern states. I haven't seen one on a man in a long time but since Vestalle found one, maybe they are coming back in.
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Although you have a vested interest, vestalle, I would suggest that you divest yourself of the vest.
RebLazer is vested with authority to vest discretion within vestalle whether to exercise this act of divestiture of the vest.
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Unread 04-10-2006, 09:40 PM   #13
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whoa! we can see lots of hours invested in grammatical input (or lack thereof), by those posters which have vested their interests within this thread.
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Unread 04-10-2006, 10:21 PM   #14
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I don't think it's such an issue of classiness, as much as just dressing nicely for Pesach.
I think it depends on each person individually.
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Unread 04-10-2006, 10:41 PM   #15
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just my personal opinion, three piece suits were cute for boys about 10 years ago, for men - about 100.

any problem with wearing one? no
I see hiskashrus, you are youngher than your other posts made you appear. Three piece suits were the rage in the 70's to early 80's.
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I see hiskashrus, you are youngher than your other posts made you appear
or maybe just more ignorant about fashion!
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what do you think?
I think that it is nice if u like it
The only thing is that u r going to call the attention
or maybe u r going to introduce a new Yom Tov chassiddishe look
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Unread 04-11-2006, 12:35 AM   #18
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i see nothing wrong, -nothing not chassidish with wearing a vest!!!

the Frierdiker Rebbe wore one! (you can watch it on the video -America Is No Different)
why should it not be chassidish?
what kind of chassidishe bochur was that? in other words what made him chassidish? (that would actually be an intresting thread, what makes someone chassidish!)
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Unread 04-11-2006, 01:07 AM   #19
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i see nothing wrong, -nothing not chassidish with wearing a vest!!!

the Frierdiker Rebbe wore one! (you can watch it on the video -America Is No Different)
why should it not be chassidish?
what kind of chassidishe bochur was that? in other words what made him chassidish? (that would actually be an intresting thread, what makes someone chassidish!)
http://www.chabadtalk.com/forum/show...hat+chassidish
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Unread 04-11-2006, 03:12 PM   #20
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I don't see anything wrong. But if it does not match the suit, so i wouldn't wear it.
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Unread 04-11-2006, 10:12 PM   #21
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Conclusion

In case you are wondering, I decided not to wear it because one generally doesn't wear a three piece suit without a tie, and I am not ready to start with the tie. Vests are just rare, ties are uncomfortable.
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Unread 04-11-2006, 11:25 PM   #22
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In case you are wondering, I decided not to wear it because one generally doesn't wear a three piece suit without a tie, and I am not ready to start with the tie. Vests are just rare, ties are uncomfortable.
Hey, do not give up so quickly.Ties r nice!, small tie is not uncomfortable
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Hey, do not give up so quickly.Ties r nice!, small tie is not uncomfortable
I will never forget the time I was in the Los Angeles County Court House in Downtown Los Angeles in 1985. A fellow came into the courtroom representing himself. He had filed lawsuits against about 7 or 8 corporations accusing them of strange ridiculous activies. They had all demurrered and sought sanctions. The judge awarded sanctions against him. But the strangest part of all, was that he was wearing a 3 pieced pin striped suit but he wasn't wearing a shirt or a tie. After the judge ordered him to pay sanctions in the amount of about $5000. which was quite a bit of money back then, he began yelling at the judge and the bailiffs hauled him out.

Do you remember when the disco fad came in the 70's? People were wearing suits with a vest with a shirt but no tie.

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