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Unread 07-23-2005, 09:43 PM   #26
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Oh yeh, and i forgot to add yaron gershovsky
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Unread 07-24-2005, 11:22 AM   #27
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now that we're starting the three weeks (i'm hungry... 5 hours to go!) does anyone know any particular lecure CDs or cassettes? the Manis Friedman and Simon Jacobson ones are pretty good but there's loads of them so it's hard to choose! any particular titles anyone enjoyed?
If anyone's interested- Simon Jacobson has a really good Kaballah series where he explains the Chassidic concepts like Sefiros, Shviras Hakelim etc in a really down to earth manner.
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Unread 08-14-2005, 10:26 PM   #28
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since it is the three weeks 613 is not a bad acappela cd
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Unread 08-31-2005, 01:44 PM   #29
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I love 613! i just heard it in camp for the first time.
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Unread 08-31-2005, 02:48 PM   #30
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matisyahu if you like rock music
umm, dude, matisyahu isn't rock, he's reggae. You can thank me for enlightening you later.
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Unread 08-31-2005, 11:11 PM   #31
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in general the only music thats healthy to listen to is lubavitcher nigunim,

composed and sung by cchasidim
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Unread 08-31-2005, 11:19 PM   #32
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How about other chassidishe music? Belz, Bobov, Vishnitz, Ger? How other niggunim from other frumme yidden? Are they "treif - posul"? Are they "unhealthy"?
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Unread 08-31-2005, 11:30 PM   #33
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i don't think he meant that other music is unhealthy- but lubavitch music would give you the best hisorerus in avodas hashem, again - i don't see that, i'm just trying to say what he meant
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Unread 08-31-2005, 11:47 PM   #34
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unhealthy was more in refrence to not chasidik nigunim and about other chasidishe music if it is really chasidishe music i agree with kiddush. another mala is that our nigunim you could basicaly know for a fact that it is ether all made by yidden who were chasidishe yidden or rabeim as oposed to others you would have to do a lot of research
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Unread 09-01-2005, 12:06 AM   #35
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Oh. I see.
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Unread 09-01-2005, 12:06 AM   #36
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my father always says that Jewish music in general is like nosherai and junk-food while nigunnim is the real stuff
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Unread 09-01-2005, 12:08 AM   #37
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Jewish music - not meaning veltishe niggunim or niggunim from other chassidim
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Unread 09-01-2005, 12:32 PM   #38
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personally, I can only listen to a CD once or twice or maybe three times and then I'll get nauseas. Somehow that never happens to me by Nigunim. Or at least it takes much longer.
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Unread 09-01-2005, 12:38 PM   #39
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How about other chassidishe music? Belz, Bobov, Vishnitz, Ger? How other niggunim from other frumme yidden? Are they "treif - posul"? Are they "unhealthy"?
They are obviously fine, but as a Lubavitcher wouldn't you want to listen to Lubavitcher nigunim? Just as you would want to learn a sicha over a drush from the Bobover Rebbe, you would want to hear Lubavitcher nigunim over other nigunim.
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Unread 09-01-2005, 01:17 PM   #40
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What about www.goinchassidish.com? Did you forget about that?
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Unread 09-01-2005, 03:13 PM   #41
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They are obviously fine, but as a Lubavitcher wouldn't you want to listen to Lubavitcher nigunim? Just as you would want to learn a sicha over a drush from the Bobover Rebbe, you would want to hear Lubavitcher nigunim over other nigunim.
If you made the analogy to Torah, then: Just like one learns (or at least should...) all parts of Torah, not only "Lubavitcher" Torah - Shas, Poskim, Rishonim, Achronim, different poskim, different Sifrei Drush etc etc [unless one is one of those unfortunate fanatics (or rather ... fools) for whom Torah begins with Tanya and ends with Likutei Sichos, with the rest just for slight reference...], with of course reserving a special place for a sicha etc for hiskashrus (and other) reasons -
Similarly maybe with niggunim, that for a farbrengen etc obviously you will get the right flavor with an old Chassidish niggun, but otherwise? Why not? It is a matter of taste.
[Obviously not all the junk roaming around out there classifies as a niggun at all - IMO - but that is another discussion...].
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Unread 09-01-2005, 05:06 PM   #42
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I find neggunim the only meaningful type of music. Personally I love all types of music, but when it comes to neggunim, i find meaning and inspiration and neggunim could really change a person or something. It's really amazing! (Also, your connecting to the souls of the Rebbe who made the niggun so its good at connecting and making you spiritual).
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Unread 09-01-2005, 05:17 PM   #43
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well... i don't (about the nigunnim thing)

just because it's chassidish to listen to nigunnim from klimovitch doesn't make everything else junk
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Unread 09-01-2005, 05:41 PM   #44
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Jewish music - not meaning veltishe niggunim or niggunim from other chassidim
veltishe dont really have to many nigunim unless you call rachiem and the likes a nigun
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Unread 09-01-2005, 05:59 PM   #45
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That's right - they never sing...
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Unread 09-01-2005, 06:11 PM   #46
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They sing zmiros. Zmiros can be fun to sing, but they tend (I speak only of the tunes, not the words) to be rather dull to listen to.
There is a k'dusha in Yiddish songs b'chlal (those that are real, not racheim etc.) but b'frat to Chassidishe nigunim esp. those song by (or in front of) the Rebbiem.
On a musical level I find Poilsher songs to lack the "depth" of our niggunim, just as chassidus Chabad goes deeper then chassidus Chagas etc.

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Unread 09-01-2005, 06:19 PM   #47
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Nu, find some better tunes for zemiros, there are some very beautiful ones out there.
But everyone to their taste.
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Unread 09-01-2005, 07:50 PM   #48
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yitzi eshel's is awesome. very hip hop however i have no idea about him some french dude and im not exactly sure what hius music is about but had jewish prhases and stuff and the rest is in heb or french

i just fell in luv with goin chasidiseh. LUBAVITCH ROCK!!!!!!!!!!! hello unbeleivable. we need more music like that.
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Unread 09-01-2005, 08:41 PM   #49
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i think that niggunim is the best thing to listen to if you want to strengthen you hiskashrus to the Rebbe, but i really dislike the cds of niggunim that degrade the nigun to the point that they dont sound like a niggun anymore! it really make me sick.
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Unread 09-01-2005, 10:51 PM   #50
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yup - I agree on that one. (changing the nigun) But its pretty good for certain crowds.

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i just fell in luv with goin chasidiseh. LUBAVITCH ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!
yeah their quite cute and fun to listen to - but not exactly what you would call "a chassidishe taam".
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