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Unread 04-24-2011, 11:24 AM   #51
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-First of all, you are confusing the Meshichist belief that the Rebbe is Moshiach with the Elokist belief that the Rebbe is G-d. You're taliking about two different things and beliefs.

-Second, the Elokists are not even a hundred people and they are marginal.

-Three, to say that Meshichists are comprised of TENS OF THOUSANDS of people is a lie as big as saying that they are less than hundred people.

-Four, all the Meshichists are not fanatical, even if it's true that the situation in EY, more than in any other country, is sad.
1_ it is the same, elokist is the more chassiddishe and highest level
2- the elite ,and represent a constant avoida
3- tens of thousands is like a good estimation showing a great number
4-the higher the shtus of kedusha,the more holier and chossid you are,any other believe is a klipa,is not a fanatical ?
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Unread 04-24-2011, 12:29 PM   #52
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1_ it is the same, elokist is the more chassiddishe and highest level
2- the elite ,and represent a constant avoida
3- tens of thousands is like a good estimation showing a great number
4-the higher the shtus of kedusha,the more holier and chossid you are,any other believe is a klipa,is not a fanatical ?
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Unread 04-24-2011, 01:20 PM   #53
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Unread 04-24-2011, 01:31 PM   #54
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Unread 04-24-2011, 01:33 PM   #55
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I just answered clearly to 4 Moishe's points
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Unread 04-24-2011, 01:36 PM   #56
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If your sarcatic or serious is unclear.
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Unread 04-24-2011, 01:39 PM   #57
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not sarcastic al all
this is just mho
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Unread 04-24-2011, 05:28 PM   #58
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I have not been on here for a few days because I got quite hurt and depressed by some things that were directed at me... it affected my mood and concentration at the seder, although I did manage to get it out of my mind partway through, and I was really pulling away from Chabad for a few days (although I did go ahead and read some comments on the Haggada by the Rebbe at the seder as I had planned, even though the family hosting the seder was not Chabad). It seems like there are different approaches on this forum... some people are very much like the Chabad people I've met "in real life" and will not say anything negative and are only encouraging to whatever mitzvas a person does.... Others are very similar to many non-Chabad people I've come accross who focus on what a person is NOT doing and seem to expect nothing less than perfection immediately. I find that when I encounter the 2nd attitude I want to run away from Judaism completely and it sometimes takes me a long time bounce back.
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Eagle, one word of advice: Don't take anything personally here. Just like in real life, there are different types of people (even in "Chabad"), many of whom you would not dream of being friendly with for any number of reasons, the same over here, with the added detail that all are anonymous, so you really have no idea who you are really talking to - maybe even someone that in real life you would take pains to avoid.

Also, not everything is indicative of what really is Chabad.

In simple words, get a real-life mentor, and treat this forum as harmless entertainment where you may sometimes find useful nuggets of information, or have a fruiful (or fruitless...) conversation. Definitely not as something to get depressed over...
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