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Unread 06-15-2005, 04:52 AM   #1
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Thumbs up Simcha in its purity

There is a well known sicha of the Rebbe from parshas Ki Tetzeh 5748 in which the Rebbe said that "the only thing that we have left to do to bring the geulah is to achieve simcha in its purity - if you don't believe me then try it and see for yourself".

I would be interetsted in learning some etzos or suggestions from people as to how this may actually be achieved in one's personal life.

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Unread 06-15-2005, 03:19 PM   #2
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Maybe by realizing that it's all hashgacha pratis, and going l'chatchila ariber...that sort of thing.
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Unread 06-16-2005, 02:34 AM   #3
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Maybe by realizing that it's all hashgacha pratis, and going l'chatchila ariber...that sort of thing.
Ok sounds good, but how does it work? There was another well known sicha of the Rebbe on the 28th of Nissan 5751 (for example) in which the Rebbe said "Rachmana Letzlan (may the Merciful One save us) since it is not mufrach etzlam (unbareable to them) that the Geulah Shleima should not come immediately".

So on the one hand, the Rebbe has taught us that all we need to do is achieve simcha in its purity, yet at the same time, he has made statements such as this, which seem to involve some level of bitterness and frustration.

In Tanya the Alter Rebbe explains that bitterness is a step towards happiness when used appropriately, but still this doesn't seem to express the 'lechatchila ariber' that you referred to and as seems to be the implication of Ki Teztzeh 5748?
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Unread 06-16-2005, 05:38 AM   #4
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Firstly, Ikar haSimcha is davka in Elokus (and specifically השגה). Second, the purest form of Simcha is the simcha of "ונשמחו בך". As is known, Simcha comes from the Hasogo of Binah (whereas Taanug is from Chochmah). Thus, this simcha is the Simcha which is born of the literal comprehension (in the brain) of Atzmus, i.e. בך ממש - the hasogo of Atzmus which will be L'Osid - (which is higher than the histaklus of Chochmah)! In golus however, the simcha in Atzmus comes through its opposite koach which is the tzaar and bechiyah (over the fact that he can't grasp Atzmus in his limited brain). Nevertheless, the tzaar and the simcha are the very same koiach - בכי' מסטרא דא וחדווה מסטרא דא. Commensurate to the tzaar that he has from the fact that he is incapable of grasp Atzmus, is the pleasure that he would have were Atzmus to be revealed to him - ב' קוין שקולין הם. As we say in shir hamaalos "hazorim b'dimah brina yiktzoiru, haloich yeilech uvochoi noise meshech hazoro, boi yovoi berina noiseh alumoisov". (See perek hei of Shaar HaYichud)
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Unread 09-20-2005, 10:41 PM   #5
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no mashke?!?
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Firstly, Ikar haSimcha is davka in Elokus (and specifically השגה). Second, the purest form of Simcha is the simcha of "ונשמחו בך". As is known, Simcha comes from the Hasogo of Binah (whereas Taanug is from Chochmah). Thus, this simcha is the Simcha which is born of the literal comprehension (in the brain) of Atzmus, i.e. בך ממש - the hasogo of Atzmus which will be L'Osid - (which is higher than the histaklus of Chochmah)! In golus however, the simcha in Atzmus comes through its opposite koach which is the tzaar and bechiyah (over the fact that he can't grasp Atzmus in his limited brain). Nevertheless, the tzaar and the simcha are the very same koiach - בכי' מסטרא דא וחדווה מסטרא דא. Commensurate to the tzaar that he has from the fact that he is incapable of grasp Atzmus, is the pleasure that he would have were Atzmus to be revealed to him - ב' קוין שקולין הם. As we say in shir hamaalos "hazorim b'dimah brina yiktzoiru, haloich yeilech uvochoi noise meshech hazoro, boi yovoi berina noiseh alumoisov". (See perek hei of Shaar HaYichud)
Any relation to Chaf Beis Shvat?
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Any relation to Chaf Beis Shvat?
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Firstly, Ikar haSimcha is davka in Elokus (and specifically השגה). Second, the purest form of Simcha is the simcha of "ונשמחו בך". As is known, Simcha comes from the Hasogo of Binah (whereas Taanug is from Chochmah). Thus, this simcha is the Simcha which is born of the literal comprehension (in the brain) of Atzmus, i.e. בך ממש - the hasogo of Atzmus which will be L'Osid - (which is higher than the histaklus of Chochmah)! In golus however, the simcha in Atzmus comes through its opposite koach which is the tzaar and bechiyah (over the fact that he can't grasp Atzmus in his limited brain). Nevertheless, the tzaar and the simcha are the very same koiach - בכי' מסטרא דא וחדווה מסטרא דא. Commensurate to the tzaar that he has from the fact that he is incapable of grasp Atzmus, is the pleasure that he would have were Atzmus to be revealed to him - ב' קוין שקולין הם. As we say in shir hamaalos "hazorim b'dimah brina yiktzoiru, haloich yeilech uvochoi noise meshech hazoro, boi yovoi berina noiseh alumoisov". (See perek hei of Shaar HaYichud)
if you want to know what simcha really means, in a more practical fashion (including everything that 8th said)

learn hemshech samach t'samach 5657.

over there, the rashab goes on to explain how simcha can be associated with kabbolas ol, and that kabbolas ol without simcha is not something to be looked upon in such a high fashion.
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