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Unread 03-01-2005, 02:47 AM   #1
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Bracelet of red thread

Some people tie some red thread around their wrist and use it as a bracelet, and claim that this has some kabbalistic significance. Can anyone confirm or refute this claim?
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Unread 03-01-2005, 05:23 AM   #2
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I was told long ago that even if it was really wrapped around kever Rochel, as generally claimed, it is best to be avoided since the red color is shayach to dinim.
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Unread 03-01-2005, 06:52 PM   #3
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There's a video about it on Judaism.com
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Unread 03-01-2005, 08:07 PM   #4
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i was always warned when i went to yerushalayim to avoid the old women by the kotel that sells the strings because she puts a curse on you!!!

i have purchased one before but it got lost,

also, i was told by a friend that whoever the red piece of string falls off in front of, that is who you will marry
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Unread 03-01-2005, 08:13 PM   #5
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also, i was told by a friend that whoever the red piece of string falls off in front of, that is who you will marry
Like I said, shayach to dinim
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Unread 03-02-2005, 03:11 PM   #6
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I lost my red string many years before I met my husband.



BTW, I find it amusing that at the bottom of the page, in the related threads, it lists "When to start a new thread" and "deleted threads", because this one has the word "thread" in the title!
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Unread 03-02-2005, 06:20 PM   #7
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When i was in Yeshiva in Miami, i heard from Rabbi Leibel Schapiro - Rosh Yeshiva, the follwoing story:

There was a Bochur from a modern home who came to learn in Lubavitcher Yeshiva in NY. During on of his Yechidus, he asked the Rebbe about the red string, and the Rebbe said: It is "Avoda Zara" and "Darkei HaEmori", therefore we do not use it.
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Unread 03-02-2005, 06:48 PM   #8
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"Darkei HaEmori", therefore we do not use it.
what does this mean??

thanks
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Unread 03-02-2005, 09:42 PM   #9
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It means "the ways of the heathens".

Bshojat: that's a remarkable story, but a very strong statement. According to that, whenever I see someone wearing one (which is not infrequent) I have to stop them. Are you sure the wording is precise, could it have been "like avo"z" vekadoma?

[I thought the reason for not wearing them was because I might drop it in front of someone and end up marrying them (then I would see red), also it doesn't match my yellow flag ]
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Unread 03-02-2005, 11:40 PM   #10
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Red String - Avoda Zara?

When i wrote the story, i wrote it from my memory, but then i checked my notebook, in which i wrote the stories, while Rabbi Schapiro said them, and the story is a bit different (i first typed up the story as i wrote it):

בשנה הראושנה שנפתחה ישיבת מאימי למד שם בחור מישיבת תורה ודעת (לא חב"דניק) והוא סיפר שכשנכנס אל הרבי ליחידות שאל את הרבי הם יש איזה-שהוא עניין מסויים בחוט האדום (אותו שמים על היד) והאם זה עוזר לעין הרע? הרבי בהתחלה לא ענה, אבל כששאל שוב, ענה הרבי בחריפות והנקודה הייתה שזהו מדרכי האמורי וזה קשור לעבודה-זרה!

The first year that the Yeshiva in Miami opened up, a Bochur from Torah VaDaas learned there. He said that once when he entered Yechidus he asked the Rebbe if there is any point to the red string? and, does it protect against Ayin Hara? And the Rebbe didnt answer, but when the Bochur asked again, the Rebbe answered sharply, and said that it is "Darchei HaEmori" and it is connected to Avoda Zara.
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Unread 03-03-2005, 05:38 AM   #11
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Tosefta (Shabbat 7:1) prohibits tying a red string around the finger because of "Darchei Emori" -- a superstitious practice resembling idol-worship.

source: Ohr Somayach
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Unread 03-03-2005, 08:53 AM   #12
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its taka sometimes peladik to see people grasping for strings

I vageuly recall seeing in the past week in a printed rag that some guy was having a web site to explain among other things (of course I wonder if he will reference his sources) the real story of the red string in the face of misuse by the Hollywood types etc.
I did not comment until now as it is amazing what some will spend time on and I do not recall the name of the site.
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Unread 03-05-2005, 09:35 PM   #13
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What I heard was that the only time it's mentioned (the red string) in the gemorah was something in connection to avoda zara. If anyone knows this source, post it. I'll investigate as well for it.
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Unread 03-06-2005, 10:44 AM   #14
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I think you're refering to "arkisa demisani" - a red shoelace in sanhedrin 74B.
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