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Unread 08-19-2003, 07:45 PM   #176
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Not surprising. They are not a propaganda organ, just reporting the facts.
Did you read the article? It was 100% propaganda. Not that propaganda is a bad thing....
Most, if not all publications by organizations are propaganda tools for that group.

Recognition and thanks for the success of Chabad Lubavitch in promoting Torah and Mitzvos in America and the world by the "Orthodox World" is largely non-existent.
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Unread 08-20-2003, 11:12 AM   #177
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yet in another thread, some people claim that couples are waiting and waiting (years, in some cases) for suitable shlichus positions and are not finding any ..
Lack of funding and other reasons... As discussed elsewhere.
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Unread 08-21-2003, 02:45 PM   #178
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<<suitable shlichus positions>>
It's not suitable for many couples to go on campus and arrange shiurim for MO people.
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Unread 08-21-2003, 03:50 PM   #179
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Unread 11-03-2003, 10:26 AM   #180
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Likutei Sichos, vol. 15, p. 42

" ...the question of studying at college or university and the like [Jude: wonder what "and the like" includes] which are an isur chamur (serious prohibition) and danger (and danger is more serious than an isur) - since the entire atmosphere and hashkafa of the "dalet amos" of these places (in these institutions in our times) are instilled with kefira (heresy) in the hashgacha pratis (Divine Providence) of Hashem, that there is no thing or power that can mix into the ways of the world and its laws (to the point that this is taken for granted (and needs no proof) and is the foundation for everything that is learned, which doesn't need to be mentioned explicitly) - and in a large portion of them, meenus and idolatry are taught etc.

"and in the vast majority of them - there are no boundaries for shame and tznius, to the point that they mock those who take this into consideration, and on the contrary, the more licentious one is, the greater one is etc.

"the terrible situation on campuses, dormitories, places to hang-out etc. is well known - and there's no need to go on at length about something so shocking in general, and something so frightening in particular.

"as far as the famous "claim" that he (or she) won't be harmed and will withstand the test etc. - the simple answer is also famous, that even a tzadik gamur on the last day of his 120 years on earth, at the beginning of the day, and before davening, asks Hashem, "don't test me," ..."
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Unread 11-03-2003, 10:29 AM   #181
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the pela of the letter is things were not as bad then as now
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Unread 11-03-2003, 12:50 PM   #182
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Originally posted by Gevurah the pela of the letter is things were not as bad then as now
Lamed"zayin: 1976

I'm not so sure that things are so much worse today. How could they be much worse?
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Unread 11-03-2003, 01:35 PM   #183
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I can't answer your question in a public forum!
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Unread 11-03-2003, 01:59 PM   #184
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Unread 02-04-2004, 10:26 AM   #185
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Much better then attending college: recite parshas haMon daily.

"One who recites the parshas haMon daily will not lack for parnasa" (based on the Yerushalmi)

For your convenience: http://www.tefillos.com/parshas_hamon.asp
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Unread 02-05-2004, 10:24 PM   #186
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Much better then attending college: recite parshas haMon daily.

"One who recites the parshas haMon daily will not lack for parnasa" (based on the Yerushalmi)

For your convenience: http://www.tefillos.com/parshas_hamon.asp
See L S Vol. 26 page 95 (Beshalach beis)

[BTW its brought down in the AR S"A etc.]
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Unread 06-04-2004, 08:24 PM   #187
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I just read an amazing story which is extremely appropriate to this thread. It is the book called "Farbrengen" by "Rabbi Chaim Dalfin":

"A teacher in one of the Chabad schools in Israel was interested in attending college. She wrote to the Rebbe who directed her to Rabbi Garelick, the rav of Kfar Chabad, for advice. As she entered Rabbi Garelick's home she found a women holding a chicken, asking the rav a question about its kosher status.

The Rov asked her to bring a knife. He then cut the gizzard and found a nail inside, which rendered the chicken treif.

Staring at the chicken, Rabbi Garelick said. "Your owner provided you with all your needs; he gave you food and other good things. Yet you were not satisfied. you went into foreign pastures, stealing from other people's property and ended up swallowing a nail, causing you to be treif. You are treif, treif, treif."

The teacher, hearing this, understood her answer. She turned around, without ever asking Rabbi Garelick her question, and went home"

i don't get this story. the woman did not do what the Rebbe told her- to speak with the Rabbi and get advice. really- it does not make sense. how did she know that this answer to someone else was indeed her answer? what if she would actualy talk to the Rabbi...
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Unread 11-01-2004, 09:41 AM   #188
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Re: Going to College

why doesn''t my father just say that prayer for parnassah while we all sit at the dinner table with empty plates??? chabad has to open their eyes!!!
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Unread 11-01-2004, 10:31 AM   #189
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Re: Going to College

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i don't get this story.
"Your owner provided you with all your needs; he gave you food and other good things....
What Hashem gives us in Torah and mitzvos.

"...Yet you were not satisfied. you went into foreign pastures..."
Non-Jewish wisdoms, etc.

"...stealing from other people's property..."
Taking from that which is not the inheritance of each and every Jew.

"...and ended up swallowing a nail"
Internalizing something damaging.
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Unread 11-01-2004, 02:28 PM   #190
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why doesn''t my father just say that prayer for parnassah while we all sit at the dinner table with empty plates??? chabad has to open their eyes!!!
In the future please include a quote so we know what you are commenting on.
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Unread 11-01-2004, 02:29 PM   #191
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why doesn''t my father just say that prayer for parnassah while we all sit at the dinner table with empty plates??? chabad has to open their eyes!!!
College teaches tons of stuff that are against torah and the averge jew doesnt even know its against torah.

There are plenty of jobs that dont require a degree or college education! There are even RICH RICH people that dont have degrees!
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Unread 11-01-2004, 02:42 PM   #192
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Re: Going to College

Everything you guys are saying about colleges are so true... The studies sometimes contain Avoda Zorah, the atmosphere is not Tznius, it's like a place that's purposely out to go against everything we believe in as Yidden.

That's why I am so glad that when I go to college everyday, I am able to show people that it's ok to stand up for what you believe in. Yeah, when I walk around campus with my Yarmulka and Tzitzis and my smiley-face-Chassid shirt that says, "Don't worry, Be Jewish" (my sister and brother-in-law got it for me), I get people looking at me very strange, but it makes the Jewish people become more interested in their heritage.

Not only that, when I am in class and a teacher or student says something about Yiddishkeit that is not true, I am able to teach them the right way.

It's also a great feeling being able to teach other Yidden about stuff that they may not have known otherwise, had noone come to the campus.

Sometimes you just have to do what you have to do, and not let the Yetzer Hora get in the way. Yeah it's hard, but if Yeshiva doesn't work out, you can still teach someone the Alef that you know.
Just my opinion, based on my experience. Not everybody is able to withstand the strong forces of Shtusim that are out their in the world, but for those that can, use your power.

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Unread 11-01-2004, 07:55 PM   #193
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Re: Going to College

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-she meant the prayer that YN gave in the link above (mahn)

-college education has lots of bad stuff, but that does not mean that a jew can not learn a trade if he needs to provide for his growing family. there are lots of options for frum crowd.
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Unread 11-01-2004, 10:05 PM   #194
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Re: Going to College

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-she meant the prayer that YN gave in the link above (mahn)

-college education has lots of bad stuff, but that does not mean that a jew can not learn a trade if he needs to provide for his growing family. there are lots of options for frum crowd.
I did figure out what she meant, as you can see in my reply to her post...
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Unread 11-01-2004, 11:02 PM   #195
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-college education has lots of bad stuff, but that does not mean that a jew can not learn a trade if he needs to provide for his growing family. there are lots of options for frum crowd.
Another good point. In my opinion I want to learn all I can about the subject I am interested in, so that I can do my "Shlichus" using the knowledge I will gain. Of course I am going to have to go back to Hadar Hatorah or something later and learn a lot more.
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Unread 11-02-2004, 11:40 AM   #196
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Kudos to you, YossTek, and the best of luck....
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Unread 11-02-2004, 03:20 PM   #197
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What happend to what the Rebbe said on this issue !?
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Unread 11-02-2004, 08:06 PM   #198
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I was thinking about that too. The rebbe laid down the rules he knew if it would be worth it to go to college (to help your shlichus), and he said no.
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Unread 11-02-2004, 09:26 PM   #199
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If you guys could post the exact quote from the Rebbe, that would be greatly appreciated. Also, did the Rebbe say what to do if you had a hard time in Yeshiva?
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If you guys could post the exact quote from the Rebbe, that would be greatly appreciated. Also, did the Rebbe say what to do if you had a hard time in Yeshiva?
Go to a yeshiva thats fit for you!
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