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Unread 08-25-2005, 11:28 PM   #1
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Question Yemos HaMoshiach

Since the first stage of the Yemos HaMoshiach will still be a 'natural' time, as opposed to the second stage, which will be super-natural; so what is the difference between the first stage of the Yemos HaMoshiach and the days of the exile?

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Unread 08-26-2005, 11:52 AM   #2
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Unread 09-12-2005, 01:52 AM   #3
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Can anyone tell me when precisely the Yemot HaMoshiach are said to have begun?

[On the one hand, in a sicha from 5752 (sefer hasichos 5752:1:173) the Rebbe [***] said that we are already in the Yemot HaMoshiach - however in a maamar from 5721 the Rebbe implied that we are not yet there yet. So my question is when precisely did they begin?]
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Unread 09-12-2005, 08:17 AM   #4
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Didn't you already ask this in another thread recently (where I gave you other references)?
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Unread 09-13-2005, 01:23 AM   #5
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Didn't you already ask this in another thread recently (where I gave you other references)?
I don't believe that it was this question (perhaps something related) but - yes - it is true that you referred me to some awesome references. Yashar koach.

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Unread 09-13-2005, 07:42 AM   #6
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So why open a bunch of threads on similar topics? You think people will go to every thread to answer the same question again and again?
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So why open a bunch of threads on similar topics? You think people will go to every thread to answer the same question again and again?
One of the beautiful sources that you guided me to was Likutei Sichos 5:149 where the Rebbe lists five steps in the transition process from galus to geulah. There is no mention there however, as to when precisely the Yemot HaMoshiach or Messianic Era specifically began. I do not believe that anyone has addressed this question yet; perhaps the answer is not forthcoming from the sources that we have available?
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Well there may be a reason why answers aren't forthcoming about the time of the arrival of Moshiach: Chazal specifically teach not to engage in that kind of idle speculation. This Ma'amor Chazal was apparently good enough for the Rebbe. Why not for you?
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Well there may be a reason why answers aren't forthcoming about the time of the arrival of Moshiach: Chazal specifically teach not to engage in that kind of idle speculation. This Ma'amor Chazal was apparently good enough for the Rebbe. Why not for you?
Which Maamar Chazal are you referring to specifically? As far as I know the Rebbe is/was 'crazy' about Moshiach (in his own words). Anyways in 5752 the Rebbe said in a sicha that we are already in the "Yemos HaMoshiach" so my question was whether anyone knows specifically when these Yemos HaMoshiach began?

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