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Unread 03-27-2005, 10:03 AM   #1
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Status of Non-Jews in Yemos HaMoshiach

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Also according to my understanging, when Moshiach will be revealed in the immediate future - all of the non-Jews who remain in the world, will all become Gerei Toshav.
I recall learning that all non-Jews will have the Halachic status of avadim kena'anim, which is a higher level than a Geir Toshav. Anyone have a source?
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Unread 03-30-2005, 08:19 AM   #2
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I recall learning that all non-Jews will have the Halachic status of avadim kena'anim, which is a higher level than a Geir Toshav. Anyone have a source?
There was a Sukkot sicha in the mems where the rebbe said that all Jews participate in Simchat Beit Hashoeiva because they will all be elevated to the geder of kohanim in yemot moshiach (since previously only kohanim were allowed to participate). Then he said that just as the Jews are making an aliyah, goyim are making an aliyah and thus can stand and watch the celebration the way non-kohanim (Jews) used to.
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Unread 03-30-2005, 10:05 AM   #3
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There was a Sukkot sicha in the mems where the rebbe said that all Jews participate in Simchat Beit Hashoeiva because they will all be elevated to the geder of kohanim in yemot moshiach (since previously only kohanim were allowed to participate). Then he said that just as the Jews are making an aliyah, goyim are making an aliyah and thus can stand and watch the celebration the way non-kohanim (Jews) used to.
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Unread 03-30-2005, 10:27 AM   #4
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I recall learning that all non-Jews will have the Halachic status of avadim kena'anim, which is a higher level than a Geir Toshav. Anyone have a source?
See LS v 23 p 179 footnote 76.
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Unread 03-30-2005, 10:43 AM   #5
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Torah613--you just know these references off the top of your head, am I right? No mafteach, no CD-Rom...
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Unread 03-30-2005, 06:48 PM   #6
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I use LS instead of Igros...
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Its in style these days.
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Well, that's an interesting reference, but it doesn't answer the question. All it says there benogei'a l'inyoneinu is that it's mashma from Rambam that goyim won't convert when Moshiach comes. But there are midroshim that speak about them serving Yidden. Does that mean they will assume the halachic status of avodim kenaanim? That's my question.
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Unread 10-24-2006, 03:07 PM   #10
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Well, that's an interesting reference, but it doesn't answer the question.
had you fooled for a year and a half
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Well, that's an interesting reference, but it doesn't answer the question. All it says there benogei'a l'inyoneinu is that it's mashma from Rambam that goyim won't convert when Moshiach comes. But there are midroshim that speak about them serving Yidden. Does that mean they will assume the halachic status of avodim kenaanim? That's my question.
Isn't this Hilchesa deMeshicha ?
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Unread 10-24-2006, 07:02 PM   #12
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had you fooled for a year and a half
Just shows the value of trying to answer questions around here, where the answer will be looked at 18 months later...
Anyway, sorry for bothering at the time.
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Unread 10-24-2006, 09:07 PM   #13
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Look, I missed your post at the time, and I answered now, no big deal.

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