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Unread 12-31-2003, 11:11 PM   #1
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Happy New Year :-)

From shmais.com


Rabbi Sholom Hecht of Hecht's bookstore on Coney Island in Flatbush, NY, was Zoiche to have had many Yechidusin with the Rebbe.

One time Rabbi Hecht had a Yechidus with the Rebbe on the morning of January 1st.

At some point during the Yechidus the Rebbe told him "Happy New Year". Rabbi Hecht was very surprised.

The Rebbe then told him that Rabbi Levi Yitzchok of Berdichev used to tell his congregants "Happy New Year", and it's based on Kapitel 87 verse 6 in Tehillim where it says "Hashem Yispor Bichsov Amim.." "Hashem will count in the register of people..."*

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happy new fiscal year to all
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Unread 12-31-2003, 11:26 PM   #2
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The solar year is an astronomical reality recognized by Torah.

January first, however, is a creation of the goyim (which they used to celebrate on April first). But if the Rebbe could see fit to say "Happy New Year" today, then let me join the celebration, and wish everyone "shana tova tikasevu v'tichaseimu" (referring to your tax forms, of course )
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Unread 12-31-2003, 11:38 PM   #3
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I always say, "Happy third of a year!!!" Wooo Hooooo !!!
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Unread 01-01-2004, 04:28 PM   #4
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my brother is making New Years resolutions
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Unread 01-06-2004, 09:41 AM   #5
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I do not see drawing a general conclusion. I just listened to a tape from Irgun Shiuriei Torah on Secular Dates and am sure the Rebbe woould have agreed with the machmirim...

Like If I tried to draw a klal for the khal from my speaking with the Rebbe...Its interesting even out side of the M issue what people will take for their own agenda....or apologetic rationalization....
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Unread 12-31-2007, 05:09 PM   #6
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I do not see drawing a general conclusion. I just listened to a tape from Irgun Shiuriei Torah on Secular Dates and am sure the Rebbe woould have agreed with the machmirim...

Like If I tried to draw a klal for the khal from my speaking with the Rebbe...Its interesting even out side of the M issue what people will take for their own agenda....or apologetic rationalization....
Gevurah, the air up there might not be good for you...
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Unread 12-31-2007, 05:14 PM   #7
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Unread 12-31-2007, 05:18 PM   #8
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Der momzer hut gehat a bris. Mazel Tov!
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Unread 12-31-2007, 09:58 PM   #9
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I do not see drawing a general conclusion. I just listened to a tape from Irgun Shiuriei Torah on Secular Dates and am sure the Rebbe woould have agreed with the machmirim...

Like If I tried to draw a klal for the khal from my speaking with the Rebbe...Its interesting even out side of the M issue what people will take for their own agenda....or apologetic rationalization....
ואני הקטן אומר לאו דוקא...
WADR, maybe your being sure is based on your agenda?
See Igros v 11 p 420 (also in LS v 16 p 574), and then get back to us whether the Rebbe for sure holds like the machmirim...
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Unread 02-05-2008, 12:28 PM   #10
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Nothing there makes me change my mind. Especially as the SH"UT CS is quoted in the shiur. Moreover, what makes u think that the Rebbe would not change his mind on any opinion that was expressed in a letter when the time, place and person was later....
What taka astounds me the most amongst roc Anash is that they *** u me
that the Rebbe's view once stated never changed...
Can you please give examples of adaraba....
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Unread 02-05-2008, 08:00 PM   #11
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I honestly do not understand what you are saying. What letter of whom was later then what?
Why would the Rebbe change his mind abou this?
Examples of aderaba? Explain, please.
Let us see what he have: A letter. A (famous) story.
You have: A shiur by...
But we/I have an agenda?
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Unread 12-31-2011, 08:40 PM   #12
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any support for the story?

this story appears on several Chabad sites, is there any solid proof?
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Unread 12-31-2011, 08:53 PM   #13
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this story appears on several Chabad sites, is there any solid proof?
Another story, from Peter Kalm's personal yechidus:

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The Rebbe then concluded the audience with a blessing, "May you continue to give your energy, charity and help of all kinds to Judaism."

The audience was on January second and the Rebbe then told me a story:

Rabbi Levi Yitzchak of Berdichev was always searching for an occasion to give a blessing to another. Once he gave someone a blessing on the secular New Year. People asked, "How can you, a rabbi, pay attention to this secular special date?" He said, "To make a blessing, all occasions are okay." The Rebbe said that the same is "now, when it is also a day or two since the secular New Year."

http://www.chabad.org/therebbe/artic...ookkeeping.htm
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Unread 12-31-2011, 09:19 PM   #14
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this story appears on several Chabad sites, is there any solid proof?
What would you like, a tape? Though I would be wary of details...
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Unread 12-31-2011, 10:24 PM   #15
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Thanks Reb Yankel! It's good though not exactly a New Year greeting.

Torah613, I would like something more then a story on a news site. A video with the Rebbe greeting someone "Happy New Year!" would be really nice. I would think some of the Dollar Sundays fell out on New Year Eve or Day? A written source would be great too.

I wonder why when I clicked on the link in my email I saw a message that my subscription to this thread has been cancelled.... Strange...
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Unread 01-01-2012, 01:34 AM   #16
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The story is attributed wth a name of a real person who heard it from the Rebbe. It should not be difficult to track down, if one is really interested.

On the other hand, I doubt the Rebbe (for sure not in public) would go around wishing people "Happy New Year" on Jan 1... that would be reading more into the story that it says.

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Unread 01-01-2012, 10:25 AM   #17
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The Rebbe mentions there the Berditchever. I found this story about the Berditchever and New Year's greetings:

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A story is told about Levi Yitzhak of Berdichev who on the non-Jewish
new year came out of his study and wished everyone a good year and to be
inscribed in the book of happiness and health.

When asked his reason he responded that it was only on the non-Jewish new year that the good decree written on Yom Kippur was signed, because Hashem saw how the Jews studied on that day and had spent their own New Year in prayer and reflection, while the non-Jews were drinking and involved in corruption.

This was brought before the heavenly tribunal by a defender angel silencing
the satan.
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Unread 01-01-2012, 10:36 AM   #18
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How does this version fit with what it says in all the seforim, that the chasima is (much) earlier? [Unless it was that specific year].

לולא דמסתפינא I would take on the core of the story (in that version), that he used it as a limud zchus, along the lines of what it says in seforim about the difference of behaviour between Yidden and lehavdil non-Yidden on their respective New years, without the chasima part.

Hard to be medayik in details in stories like this...
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