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Unread 03-26-2007, 09:48 AM   #1
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Chumras

Am I the only one not looking for chumras?
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Unread 03-26-2007, 10:09 AM   #2
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It would help if we knew what you are talking about.
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Unread 03-26-2007, 10:41 AM   #3
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On Pesach. Am I the only one not looking for (extra) chumras?

I'm more than happy to keep the dinim. And the minhagim that I was taught, when I came to Machon Chana.

But extra chumras? Like some ppl don't use any spices, when I am more than happy to grind my own pepper, peel my own ginger, and use fresh garlic.

Like those who only use root vegetables - when I can peel strawberries, bell peppers, and celery quite well, thank you.

Like only to use the veggies from Europe - when melons, pineapple, sweet potatoes abound and have not one speck of chometz or kitniyos in them!

Anyone?
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Unread 03-26-2007, 11:11 AM   #4
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is husband happy?
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Unread 03-26-2007, 12:04 PM   #5
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Some things are minhog. Some things are chumra. Some things are hiddur. Some things are meshugas.
Using vegetables only that existed in Russia/Europe classifies as meshugas. if your family is not from there, and you have no "family minhog", no reason to do it.
Using only vegetables that can be peeled is a chumra. What to include in that list - and what you decide you can peel, is up to you.
This type of issue was discussed in this thread: http://www.chabadtalk.com/forum/showthread.php3?t=5394
(and maybe here also http://www.chabadtalk.com/forum/showthread.php3?t=5317 ).
Maybe this discussion should be moved there.
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Unread 03-26-2007, 12:14 PM   #6
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Yes, ChossidNistar, DH is very happy. I make him exactly what he wants and if the kids ask for nosh, he doesn't impose extra stringencies on them.

I am just speaking in general, in the grand scheme of things . . .
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Unread 03-26-2007, 12:55 PM   #7
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but certain spices are labelled as pass nicht in Shevach Moadim etc like Garlic... not the same as an Avocado.
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Unread 03-26-2007, 01:38 PM   #8
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the AR writes that on pesach we are noiheg to be machmir all the chumrois. (some want to extrapolate it to mean not just for chometz but even kashrus vakm). but common sense has to prevail.

not to use something because it didn't exist in russia does not make sense, if it did exist and there were problems with it then and now there are no problems, then you might say that there is a inyon to keep minhog avoiseinu. if the problem could still exist, then obviously there is a reason to keep it.

i just want to mention. some have a minhog to grind the matza with 'reichayim shel yad' becasue it does not get as hot as the machine. the issue is because the hotter it is the more humidity there is and the clumps of flour that get stuck in the machine have more of a chance of becoming chometz in a machine than in reichayim shel yad.

but nowadays, it seems that a modern machine is better, because modern machines control the humidity in the machine, while in 'reichayim sehl yad' there is no such mechanism, so modern machines are better. smoeone who has the option of a modern machine versus doing it by hand, and chooses to do it by hand because of the chumra of reichayim shel yad is just being foolish.
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Unread 03-26-2007, 01:52 PM   #9
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Not e/o has accepted the no garlic "rule". Rabbi Raskin from England wrote a tshuvah on it a few years back and we started eating garlic on Pesach b/c of it.
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Unread 03-26-2007, 02:52 PM   #10
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heteras nedarim...mazel tov.

and is PEsach that much more yeshusdik?
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Unread 03-26-2007, 03:59 PM   #11
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heteras nedarim...mazel tov.

and is PEsach that much more yeshusdik?

LOL.
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Unread 03-27-2007, 03:01 PM   #12
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Thumbs down Chocolate

In my house we try to avoid process foods. My daughter came home from school and told me that everyone else eats chocolate on Pesach because the Rebbe did. Can anyone validate this?
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Unread 03-27-2007, 03:26 PM   #13
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Chocolate came up here: http://www.chabadtalk.com/forum/showthread.php3?t=4125
Essentially: The Rebbe ate on Pesach. The Rebbe ate Shmerling chocolate (during the year). Two items were put together.
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Unread 03-27-2007, 03:54 PM   #14
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I remember in my "early years" being surprised that ppl ate chocolate, but Schmerling's is accepted on Pesach by many "big" Lub.
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Unread 03-27-2007, 04:29 PM   #15
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So? Doesn't make it the right thing to do.
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Unread 03-27-2007, 06:04 PM   #16
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What exactly is "right" and "wrong" in this context?
Agav: The Rebbe did eat milchigs on Pesach. Of course, that has nothing to do with whether he ate chocolate.
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Meaning - his chocolate was parve !
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Unread 03-27-2007, 08:52 PM   #18
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What exactly is "right" and "wrong" in this context?
Agav: The Rebbe did eat milchigs on Pesach. Of course, that has nothing to do with whether he ate chocolate.

milchigs like wat?
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Unread 03-27-2007, 11:11 PM   #19
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Milk, possibly cottage cheese (IIRC. I will try to verify).
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Unread 03-27-2007, 11:38 PM   #20
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What exactly is "right" and "wrong" in this context?
Agav: The Rebbe did eat milchigs on Pesach. Of course, that has nothing to do with whether he ate chocolate.
It's not "right" to say, "Well, lots of 'big' Lubavitch families do it, so it must be the right thing to do." Therefore, it's "wrong". It may be that it's okay to do whatever it is in question. But not because everyone else is doing it.
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Unread 03-28-2007, 08:25 AM   #21
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Of course the entire question of chocolate in kashrus has changed since the Rebbe ate chocolate in a guf ...unless you hold by Shmirnoff
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Unread 03-28-2007, 09:12 AM   #22
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It's not "right" to say, "Well, lots of 'big' Lubavitch families do it, so it must be the right thing to do." Therefore, it's "wrong". It may be that it's okay to do whatever it is in question. But not because everyone else is doing it.
Well, in that I agree: What everyone does or does not do, does not have the slightest relevance in these issues, which are not halacha nor minhog. Everyone has to find what they are comfortable with and act accordingly. Therefore, what everyone does or does not do has no bearing at all on "right" or "wrong". All it means that one is showing is that the herd mentality is strong and intact.

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Unread 03-28-2007, 10:22 AM   #23
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Is there anyone else on this thread who now has "Machmir, Machmir - Mach mir dus un Mach mir yentz. Machmir, Machmir - Satmar Secret" playing in their head?
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