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Unread 04-29-2010, 08:09 AM   #1
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Question where is this niggun from

I was recently by a farbrengen and they sang a niggun with the words if i remember correctly: "Der Rebbe zol gezunt zein un aleh sonim zolen plotzen boruch hamokom baruch hu...." I also heard it sang at weddings in crown heights with a change in words der rebbe zol gezunt zein un aleh Chassidim zolen Tantzen . Even more I happed by chance to hear the exact tune played lhavdil as background music on a goyish sports show. I couldn't believe it was the same and one friend who heard that said in the old times goyishe shepards who where a lot more eidel in those times would compose a tune and chasidim heard them and used them as a niggun. Does anyone how this niggun came about and who composed the words?
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Unread 04-29-2010, 05:30 PM   #2
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Traditon has it, that it was composed by an old, fervent (now unknown) chosid after 10 hours of dveikus in davvening, and many hours spent in deep hisbonenus beforehand. While still under the influence of this great avodah, his ears caught the strains of this niggun (it is not known anymore whether he heard it from a shepard walking by, or a radio playing by a neighbor. But these are mere details). On the spot, he gathered a few fellow Chassidim, made a farbrengen, and sang the above song.

With such a background, is it any surprise that it has inspired generations to greater heights of Torah and Tfilla?

(Source: Hasidic Legends).
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Unread 05-02-2010, 12:38 PM   #3
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The other day we were leaving the Shul and we were surprised to hear from a car a Goyish song using a Niggun resembling much to Daled Bavos.
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Unread 05-25-2010, 09:21 AM   #4
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Red face

Is the source you give Hasidic Legends a book? If so is there a link online to where i can find it? Is what you write specifically said about this nigun or in general about a nigun? Does anyone know the title to this nigun or if there is any audio recording anywhere or background on it?
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Unread 05-25-2010, 12:37 PM   #5
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Is the source you give Hasidic Legends a book? If so is there a link online to where i can find it? Is what you write specifically said about this nigun or in general about a nigun? Does anyone know the title to this nigun or if there is any audio recording anywhere or background on it?
have you ever heard of sarcasm?
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Unread 05-25-2010, 01:50 PM   #6
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Am I being accused of sarcasm?!
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You sarcasm? No way, never!
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Unread 06-16-2010, 01:43 AM   #8
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I found a audio link to the niggun

here is the link to it http://770live.com/en770/nigunim/nig...544.rm&gif=544
Anyone know where it originated from?
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Unread 06-16-2010, 10:08 AM   #9
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My history lesson was not enough for you?
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Unread 06-20-2010, 08:07 AM   #10
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@Torah613 It seemed like the history lesson was not talking specifically about the niggun I asked about, but rather a general history of some niggunim. When the source was Hasidic Legends, I was not sure what exactly that means as in the reply I gave above. @Couldntbe It can some times be difficult to tell the difference between sarcasm and seriousness on a forum like this especially for newcomers

I recently came across the niggun on Dovid Horowitz's Masores Hanigunim on a mp3 player, where the in the title of the niggun it says (Duchman). Does it make sense that a Duchman was the one that introduced the niggun?
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Makes perfect sense...
I would not waste more time on this, if I were you.
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Unread 06-20-2010, 02:31 PM   #12
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Alleh sonim zoln platzen is definitely the authentic nusach!!
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Authentic?
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the origin of the niggun

soviet march song Polyushka Polye

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyushko-polye

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2Ylb...feature=fvwrel
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