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Unread 03-27-2007, 08:50 PM   #26
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this si very important to discuss
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Unread 03-28-2007, 12:00 AM   #27
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Unfortunately this list is representative of golus Amerika (am rake).Is there even one "rabbi" on the list, someone who can pasken on sheilos of Taharas mispocho or treifus? If I were a rabbi, i would be embarrased to be on a list together with Rabbi Sharon and Rabbi Michael and the assorted apikorsim,sexual deviants, and yes, even so called "Moderdox" pc-niks.
Here is my list; first ten(North America) (not including the Nosi Hador)-
Tosher Rebbe Shlita
Skvarer Rebbe "
Skulener Rebbe
Novominker Rebbe
Bostoner Rebbe (when he visits)
R' Dovid Feinstien
R' Dovid Cohen
R' Hilel David
Satmar Rebbes
Viener Ruv
Debrecener Ruv
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Unread 03-28-2007, 12:05 AM   #28
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welcome Magdy, I taught that you were hired for a year, and they could not to renew your contract!
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Unread 03-28-2007, 08:30 AM   #29
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you are welcome to your own list and criteria in your own publication, blog etc,.. as long as you please your audience...
it is clear who is making this list for their audience and all of those on the list have a big mouth ...aka very vocal... pc term..so it is no duh
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Unread 03-28-2007, 08:47 AM   #30
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you are welcome to your own list and criteria in your own publication, blog etc,.. as long as you please your audience...
it is clear who is making this list for their audience and all of those on the list have a big mouth ...aka very vocal... pc term..so it is no duh
what is your list?
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Unread 03-28-2007, 09:13 AM   #31
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Unfortunately this list is representative of golus Amerika (am rake)...
And you entirely missed the point of the list. The list wasn't of the top 10 talmidei chachamim or even the first ten people you would go to with a question of ThM or treifus. The list is of the most influential rabbis in America. While the people on your list are influential in the frum world, that is (sadly) only a small fraction of the Jewish world in America.

Take the list for what it is - no more and no less.

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Unread 03-28-2007, 10:20 AM   #32
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You can view the list in Newsweek in the following light: Magdiel created his own impressive list. Unfortunately, they are not known to the world at large, because they did not follow the Rebbe's call of ' , of turning themselves outwards to the people. If they had, they would have created impressive movements of their own followers, they would have been quoted in the press constantly, and instead of Chabad shluchim having to share news article space with Rabbi Jennifer Flamingo of Temple Rodef Znus (Renewal), they would be sharing quotes with the Novominsker. And (least importantly) they would have ended up on the Newsweek top 50 list as influences felt around the globe, not only America.

They failed. Plain and simple. And they still fail.
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Unread 03-28-2007, 10:42 AM   #33
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its not even the
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They mean America pashut

B...merely reflective in Dirah B'Tachtonim vs. Shleimas HaAdam...

not their goal Maggy..
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Unread 03-28-2007, 01:15 PM   #34
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...They failed. Plain and simple. And they still fail.
I doubt you can find much support in the Rebbe's Torah for the above.
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Unread 03-28-2007, 01:47 PM   #35
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Really?! Do you mean when the Rebbe railed against the "Gedoley Yisroel" about their lack of leadership regarding Mihu Yehudi? When the Rebbe told them that keeping their yungerleit in Kollel was a disaster for Judaism? When the Rebbe faulted them for promoting giving up Shetachim? Do you mean that the Rebbe nevel laid the blame at their feet?!
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Unread 03-28-2007, 03:34 PM   #36
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Really?! Do you mean when the Rebbe railed against the "Gedoley Yisroel" about their lack of leadership regarding Mihu Yehudi? When the Rebbe told them that keeping their yungerleit in Kollel was a disaster for Judaism? When the Rebbe faulted them for promoting giving up Shetachim? Do you mean that the Rebbe nevel laid the blame at their feet?!
He never criticized others for being insular. He criticized others for not taking certain positions (most notably 'mihu yehudi' and shleimus haaretz). Where did he talk about Kollels? The whole Kollel movement, b'chlal isn't Chassidish. Its a Litvish zach that developed after "hey iyyar." I don't know that that has anything to do with criticisms that Chassidishe Rebbeim are too insular, as you said before.
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Unread 03-28-2007, 08:11 PM   #37
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I said nothing of insular, I speak of Hafotzas HaYahadus. The Rebbe addressed the issue of locking up potential Mashpiim on the secular world in Kollel as well.
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Unread 03-28-2007, 10:16 PM   #38
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I said nothing of insular, I speak of Hafotzas HaYahadus. The Rebbe addressed the issue of locking up potential Mashpiim on the secular world in Kollel as well.
You're splitting hairs. But that's irrelevant. I asked for a source above. And I would still like to see one.
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Unread 03-29-2007, 07:50 AM   #39
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When the Rebbe told them that keeping their yungerleit in Kollel was a disaster for Judaism?
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I asked for a source above. And I would still like to see one.
Most Peladik statement I have seen here in recent years...

Put up or Shut up Bittul

Let's see as a source with as good as accuracy as you require of others.
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Unread 03-29-2007, 08:06 AM   #40
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About the specific issue of Kollel - see letter printed in LS v 23 p 443 (printed in IK v 14 p 30).
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Unread 03-29-2007, 08:44 AM   #41
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About the specific issue of Kollel - see letter printed in LS v 23 p 443 (printed in IK v 14 p 30).
Thanks.
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Unread 03-29-2007, 10:01 AM   #42
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Thank you Torah. Every gambler wishes someone else would put up for them :-). I'm lucky - Torah itself puts up for me....

Gevurah, halfe vufeleh, but I can shut up and type at the same time...

I know it is peledik, it is usually my line.

Back to Pesach now. Bickering to continue afterwards.
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Unread 03-29-2007, 08:16 PM   #43
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my brother received his semicha last year. my family are organising a mass boycott of Newsweek because he wasn't listed as number one. I mean, the Chutzpah!
Rabbi Shmerel Lochinkup for No.1 Rabbi!
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Unread 03-30-2007, 12:08 AM   #44
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Lukshinkop???

Who is he next to the Admou"r meCreedmoor, whose ninety-two trillion multiple personalities, all of whom collect welfare, section 8, SSI, disability, Social Security and are listed as insurance beneficiaries on each other's term life policies, can fill a list of 50 rah-bonim many, many, many times over and over!
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Unread 03-30-2007, 12:03 PM   #45
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What about "R." Yisroel Dovid Weiss?!
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Unread 04-13-2007, 09:30 AM   #46
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http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/ne...p3?artid=13894


Shluchas Adonaynu !
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Unread 04-15-2008, 01:43 PM   #47
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http://www.newsweek.com/id/131598

Taka... need some PR for next year... Lipskar at least
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Unread 04-15-2008, 02:52 PM   #48
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many lady rabbis in the list and not even 1 Chabad Rabbi from the thousand of shluchim
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Unread 04-15-2008, 06:07 PM   #49
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i would like to hear the definition of rabbi from whoever compiled that list
there is about 5 orthodox rabbis there and they stick in a reconstructionist... that list is very interesting indeed
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Unread 04-15-2008, 10:06 PM   #50
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maybe they mean the ones who come up in the google results for "rabbi".
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