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Unread 03-28-2007, 04:32 PM   #26
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All it means that one showing that the herd mentality is strong and intact.
Perhaps the dictum, "Al tifrosh min ha'tzibur" ("Do not separate yourself from the community [aka 'herd"')" might apply? In other words, if the widespread practice in one's community is to be stringent not to eat chocholate, for example, during Pesach, then does this have at least some bearing on one's own decision for one's household?
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Unread 03-28-2007, 05:12 PM   #27
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No. As long as it is not a "minhog hamokim" - which in our circles is based on minhogei רבותינו נשיאנו (like for example, eating radishes, or gebrokts), than I can do whatever I want.
Another issue might be doing it in public, before those that are noheg issur - See AR's SA.
In addition, in our case I am not convinced that all the Russian "chumras" (only foods that existed in Russia etc.), are considered a "communal" minhog.
In addition, what is considered "widespread"? Based on those "holier than thou" loudmouthes who try to give guilt trips to all those that don't follow their "chumros"/meshugas?
All the above is not specific to the discussion of chocholate, which may have other issues etc.
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[Disclaimer: The above has nothing to do with what I do or do not do in my own house, which is not relevant to this discussion].
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Unread 12-25-2007, 09:26 AM   #28
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As long as it is not a "minhog hamokim" - which in our circles is based on minhogei רבותינו נשיאנו (like for example, eating radishes, or gebrokts), than I can do whatever I want.
Are you suggesting that the Rebbeim weren't careful to avoid processed foods on Peisach?
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Unread 12-25-2007, 09:34 AM   #29
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What "processed foods" were there in the times of the AR? MR? TT? Maharash? Rashab? FR (even in USA in the 40s)?
For that matter - what "processed foods" did anyone have in the old country?
Unless "processed" means anything not prepared in "my" home - which is a seperate issue of ניט מישען זיך.
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Unread 12-25-2007, 05:02 PM   #30
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Okay, fine. Are you suggesting that the Rebbe wasn't careful to avoid processed foods on Peisach?
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Unread 12-25-2007, 08:32 PM   #31
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1) Look back in this thread.
2) I would have no idea what "processed" he ate or didn't - pesach or all year round.
3) Him not eating foods from outside the home can be because of not "mixing", or other chumras, not because of a specific chumra of "processed". And as mentioned - he did eat milchigs...
4) Even if we find out that by the Rebbe there was a specific chumra on "processed" foods (by interrogating the shamoshim - with all the assumptions as to their reliability?), that does not a minhog Chabad make...
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the AR writes that on pesach we are noiheg to be machmir all the chumrois.
Where is this written?
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Unread 04-10-2011, 04:48 PM   #33
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שו"ת אדה"ז סי' ו: "אבל לפמ"ש האריז"ל להחמיר כל החומרות בפסח..." ע"ש
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Unread 04-17-2011, 07:33 PM   #34
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but certain spices are labelled as pass nicht in Shevach Moadim etc like Garlic... not the same as an Avocado.
Doesn't Rabbi Landau write in his diary that the Rebbe Rashab used garlic on pesach?

Doesn't his son give a hechsher on garlic for pesach?
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