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Unread 07-11-2006, 02:42 PM   #1
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Davening out of order?

The Alter Rebbe's ruling on davening for a woman seems to be (based on Women's Obligations in Tefillah and Blessings) that the minimum consists of Brachos, Vayedaber, Shema through Shmone Esrei, and Shir Shel Yom.

If a woman wishes to daven more than the minimum, yet has an unknown amount of time to daven, how does she go about it?

- Should she daven the bare minimum, then go back and start from the beginning, skipping what she already said?
- Should she do the above, but say what she said over again?
- Can she daven slightly more than the minimum (i.e. adding Baruch She'amar and some of Psukei Dezimra) and then go back and later say the parts she didn't say before?
- Is it OK to say Birkas Krias Shema without saying the whole shema?
- If one is going back and "making up" parts of davening, do the dinei hefsek beTefila apply?
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Unread 07-11-2006, 02:54 PM   #2
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A Pela this is not addressed in seminary..... can one assume that those who have this question are those who daven the ganze siddur before marriage?

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The Alter Rebbe's ruling on davening for a woman seems to be (based on Women's Obligations in Tefillah and Blessings) that the minimum consists of Brachos, Vayedaber, Shema through Shmone Esrei, and Shir Shel Yom.
There is no "AR's ruling" concerning shir shel yom.
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There is no "AR's ruling" concerning shir shel yom.
I stand corrected. Thank you for pointing it out.

The rest of my post still stands... any haaros?
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If a woman wishes to daven more than the minimum, yet has an unknown amount of time to daven, how does she go about it?

- Should she daven the bare minimum, then go back and start from the beginning, skipping what she already said?
- Should she do the above, but say what she said over again?
no - especially not brochos.
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- Can she daven slightly more than the minimum (i.e. adding Baruch She'amar and some of Psukei Dezimra) and then go back and later say the parts she didn't say before?
Yes, without repeating the brochos. If at first she will only say some PD, see AR's SA 52:1 for which pieces have priority.
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- Is it OK to say Birkas Krias Shema without saying the whole shema?
I think yes.
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- If one is going back and "making up" parts of davening, do the dinei hefsek beTefila apply?
No, since she should not say the brochos later (see AR's SA 52:1).
I also should point out that she has no "obligation" to say Shma at all (AR's SA 70:1), though "it is proper" to say the first possuk).

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