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Unread 03-17-2010, 07:54 PM   #1
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Why isn't Moshiach ben Yosef mentioned in Chabad Chassidus?

This fellow isn't a Lubavitcher

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LswyPAZRR1Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTBAYvyNxW0

but he seems to know his Kabbalah.

Why isn't Moshiach ben Yosef mentioned by Chabad Chassidus? Whereas the Vilna Gaon bases a whole sefer, the Kol HaTor, on him.

Is this fellow's chap about the Rambam's chezkas Moshiach and vadai Moshiach being a closet referral to Moshiach ben Dovid and Moshiach ben Yosef, correct?
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Unread 03-17-2010, 09:43 PM   #2
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It's certainly incorrect. Rambam is clearly talking about one person from Beis Dovid who will be b'chezkas Moshiach and then Moshiach vadai.
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Unread 03-17-2010, 10:00 PM   #3
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but he seems to know his Kabbalah.
No. Total ignoramous mamash.
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Unread 03-18-2010, 02:00 AM   #4
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When the Alter Rebbe said that "Moshiach will be a Misnaged", was it more than a joke?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTlBZDpFP40
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Unread 03-18-2010, 11:39 AM   #5
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It wasn't a joke in the first place, it was a pithy way of expressing the idea that following the derech of Chassidus fosters the trait of kabolas ol.
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Unread 03-18-2010, 04:40 PM   #6
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Maybe it means someone like R.Isser Zalman Weisberg, a former Misnaged, but now a farbrenter Lubavitcher, who is able to bring in sources like the Vilna Gaon in to his Hassidus shiurim, and get away with it i.e. the Moshiach will be the best of both worlds?
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Unread 03-18-2010, 07:43 PM   #7
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It's certainly incorrect. Rambam is clearly talking about one person from Beis Dovid who will be b'chezkas Moshiach and then Moshiach vadai.
R SB Wolpoe in his books says the identical chiddush (FWIW).
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Unread 03-18-2010, 11:55 PM   #8
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I hope u have not opened them recently
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Unread 03-19-2010, 08:23 AM   #9
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No, just my memory.
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