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Unread 07-09-2003, 08:35 PM   #1
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Your Opinion on KEHOT & JEM Progress

What do you think on kehot's progress in publishing books etc (bechlal)?
Same with JEM regarding new releases?
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Unread 07-09-2003, 08:55 PM   #2
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I work for people too close to both of those to comment.
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Unread 07-09-2003, 10:53 PM   #3
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this only heightens our interest in your thoughts on the matter!
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Unread 07-09-2003, 11:07 PM   #4
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Kehos - Not publishing as much as they could, in almost everyone's opinion. They do a good job on things when they do put them out, like the new Shulchon Oruch (okay, perhaps a few errors in the lomdus, depending on who you talk to) and the new siddurim.

JEM - they have a nice bed in their store room. They are go-getters, but they are run more like a business. Eli Shmotkin knows what's up. I have a really funny story about him.

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Unread 07-10-2003, 12:25 AM   #5
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which is? (you can't tell us you have a story [specificaly a funny one] then just go ahead and not tell us)
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Unread 07-10-2003, 01:20 AM   #6
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I am not Jewish, but if I am in a place like CH for Shabbos I dress up like a bochur (maybe not a very good one, but still). I went over to somebody's apartment for lunch. Anyways, as he was walking to the kitchen, he accidentally kicked his computer that was on the floor. This caused it to turn on. I figured, since the war on Iraq had just started, that perhaps I should make sure that nothing terribly bad has r"l happened. So I am sitting there in black pants, a white shirt, a big yarmulke on, using a computer, when Eli Shmotkin knocks on the door, and comes in. The computer is right by the door, so I quickly turn off the monitor and sit back down with a cup of Absolut. He didn't even remember that it was me, because I had grown a beard since the last time he had seen me, a year earlier.

If he would have seen me there he would have had a heart attack.
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Unread 07-10-2003, 06:17 AM   #7
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JEM is producing amazing things, but as lambada pointed out, it's run like a buisness. But the hafatza that they do is uncomparable with any other central organization and the way they make the Rebbe alive to the generation that did not merit to see the Rebbe is something to thank them for.
Kehos would like to be a business, but without funds and money it is hard to become one. remember that until a number of years ago, the ONLY publishing house focused on Jewish education etc. was Kehos. Today with all the competition from the non-Lubavitch world, it is hard to compete, and as i mentioned especially when they have no money.
but slowly kehos is rebuilding themselves and starting to print new books and seforim and reprinting in modern format many of the old stuff.
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Unread 07-10-2003, 08:25 AM   #8
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I think Kehot deserves kudos for the Chassidic Heritage Series.

Well-researched, clearly annotated, nicely designed -- bringing some of the essentials of Chassidus to the attention of the wider public in a coherent, comprehensible format.
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Unread 07-10-2003, 07:39 PM   #9
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is it true that there was a hava amina that artsroll shoud join kehos?
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Unread 07-10-2003, 07:52 PM   #10
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Yes there was, in the earlier years.
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Unread 07-10-2003, 07:55 PM   #11
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Unread 07-10-2003, 08:03 PM   #12
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I don't remember them off hand, sorry.
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Unread 07-11-2003, 10:32 AM   #13
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artscroll, before approaching mesorah approached Kehos and Rabbi Chadakov said that we don't need them
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Unread 07-11-2003, 12:00 PM   #14
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Hindsight is a real pain, eh bochur?
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Unread 07-11-2003, 12:38 PM   #15
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When a girl turns down a shidduch and later the boy becomes rich, it doesn't mean it was a mistake to turn it down.
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Unread 07-11-2003, 02:10 PM   #16
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That isn't what I meant. Who buys more Artscroll stuff than anyone else?
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Unread 07-14-2003, 04:58 PM   #17
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By the way, Artscroll has finalley started bringing down fromte Rebe in their Nac"h and others.
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Unread 07-14-2003, 04:58 PM   #18
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Now Chabad can bring down from the GR"A and we can all be happy!

Seriously, I don't think it is any worse than Kehos publishing works on "Chassidus" and only including Chabad (and more specifically, only Lubavitch) Chassidus.

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Unread 07-14-2003, 05:14 PM   #19
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If Artscroll was Ger and only brought down Chassidus Ger, it would be a good analogy. But they bring sources from everywhere... except Chabad.
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Unread 07-14-2003, 05:14 PM   #20
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Artscroll is more of a everything judaisim.

Technically Kehot is meant to publish anythng from Yiddishkeit (They did Gemorahs in the Yuds) whereas Maareches Otzar Hachassidim is davka for Chabad chassidus.

By the way: The Rebbe would bring down from the Gr"a and as far as I know no chassid had a "problem" (CH"V) with this...

Another diffeerence, I myself hears from the Chabad Chossid that gave them the material, that Nosson Sherman said, that betzem he would put in from the Rebbe (Note: he is a baal teshuvah from one of the Gordons), just that he is afraid what lakewood will say.

Furthermore: Artscroll brings from everyone and for a timne they would not bring form Lubnavitch on purpose until shlchim threatend them with boycot.

Most of this I heard first hand.
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Unread 07-14-2003, 05:52 PM   #21
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You don't really understand the problem HoravDave. People read Lubavitch sources in English and come to think that Lubavitch is all there is to Chassidus. How often does Kehos say "Chabad Chassidus"? Look at the Chassidic Heritage series. Objectively, Toldos Ya'akov Yosef is more influential and important in Chassidic history than Mi Chamocha from the Rebbe Maharash. It should be translated into English before some of these ma'amorim, which are inherently difficult to translate, and even more difficult to attempt to learn in English. But it would never happen.

Read through the Kehos (and SIE) stuff in English. Write an essay on what you think the Chassidus is historically, basing yourself only on what you have seen. Chances are your essay will be wrong. If one presents a distorted picture of history excluding dozens of great tzaddikim, that is much worse than writing a commentary on Chumash excluding a single one.

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Unread 07-14-2003, 06:06 PM   #22
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The Chasidic heratige series is supposed to bring down Chabad Chasidus which is fundamental and basic connecpts in chasidus that are user friendly.
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Unread 07-14-2003, 06:08 PM   #23
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Then why don't they call it "Fundamentals of Chabad Chassidus"? We are discussing false advertising here. If the Artscroll Chumash was called "The Chumash According to Everyone But Lubavitch Chassidus", there would be no problem, would there?

Here is a funny story about this sort of mentality. I was in a shul on Pesach, where I had the zechus to sit beside a very big lomdan. He was learning the Shollel Rov Haggadah, which was "the" Haggadah to have that year in the Litvishe world, apparently. Another learned person saw this, and started yelling at him, "how can you learn a Haggadah that doesn't bring down the Rebbe's Haggadah?". Then my friend yelled back and said "okay, tell me one vort from the Rebbe's Haggadah". The other person couldn't!

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Unread 07-14-2003, 10:52 PM   #24
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OK, Lambda, you have a point.

They takke should explicitly say that they are discussing Chabad Chassidus. [This is not to exclude other things, but to specify where the focus is.]
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Unread 07-14-2003, 11:11 PM   #25
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Do Artscroll bring R JB Soloveichik or R Kook?
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