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Forum: Chinuch 04-12-2010, 08:49 AM
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Posted By noahidelaws
Again, I don't see the relevance to the thread,...

Again, I don't see the relevance to the thread, which is about the specific topic of excising or at least drastically cutting down on secular studies from the curriculum in girls' schools.
Forum: Chinuch 04-12-2010, 12:31 AM
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Posted By noahidelaws
That English essay above is from here...

That English essay above is from here (http://www.sichosinenglish.org/essays/73.htm). Please explain the direct relevance to the thread topic, please. It doesn't say in that essay that women...
Forum: Chinuch 06-08-2009, 02:15 PM
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Posted By noahidelaws
It's not what I think, it's the words of the...

It's not what I think, it's the words of the Alter Rebbe. He thinks it's bad. Period.
Forum: Chinuch 06-07-2009, 12:10 PM
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Posted By noahidelaws
Again, you didn't read what I wrote. I didn't say...

Again, you didn't read what I wrote. I didn't say that it was THE reason, but that it was A plausible reason that should not be discounted. Contaminating your mind is not a segula for yiras Shomayim;...
Forum: Chinuch 06-07-2009, 12:46 AM
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Posted By noahidelaws
I didn't say that it was THE reason, but that it...

I didn't say that it was THE reason, but that it was A plausible reason. Being that I never attended BY, nor am I acquainted with anyone who did, I can't comment on what's going on there. My comments...
Forum: Chinuch 02-20-2009, 01:05 AM
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Posted By noahidelaws
Torah613, I'm not saying that it's THE cause, but...

Torah613, I'm not saying that it's THE cause, but simply that it may be A cause, and greater taharas hamoach is certainly going to produce more eidel children than not, acc. to the peshat in Tanya.
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Forum: Chinuch 02-19-2009, 11:00 PM
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Posted By noahidelaws
MT, based on the way you write, let's just say...

MT, based on the way you write, let's just say that I think I've looked into it more than you, and since that you admit that you are yet to research the matter thoroughly, I think you should not form...
Forum: Chinuch 02-19-2009, 09:55 PM
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Posted By noahidelaws
MT, don't you think you should research the...

MT, don't you think you should research the Rebbe's words thoroughly before expressing an opinion on the topic?

MTC, you exhibit a basic lack of understanding of the Alter Rebbe's words. He in no...
Forum: Chinuch 02-19-2009, 08:28 PM
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Posted By noahidelaws
It's the other way around: limmudei chol isn't...

It's the other way around: limmudei chol isn't important in its own right. We should learn only Torah, and limmudei chol only where clearly necessary.

You clearly haven't learned the Rebbe's...
Forum: Chinuch 02-19-2009, 06:17 PM
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Posted By noahidelaws
yes? I didn't see where you proved that for...

yes? I didn't see where you proved that for non-gedolei Yisroel it's legit. to learn secular philosophy. Just say that the Rebbe learnt things that are kfira. We know that for gedolei Yisroel that's...
Forum: Chinuch 02-19-2009, 05:19 PM
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Posted By noahidelaws
MT: 1. So maybe they won't have a degree! But...

MT:
1. So maybe they won't have a degree! But they'll be G-d-fearing. They'll find their parnoso, which comes from Hashem. Plenty of people without college find parnoso.

2. Huh? Learning Torah...
Forum: Chinuch 02-19-2009, 04:09 PM
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Posted By noahidelaws
One can learn reasoning skills just fine in the...

One can learn reasoning skills just fine in the process of learning Torah.
It's misogyny because it says that it's a problem to pollute the minds of boys, not girls.
If you're pro-limmudei chol,...
Forum: Chinuch 02-19-2009, 03:25 PM
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Posted By noahidelaws
MT: Limmudei chol for a constructive, specific...

MT: Limmudei chol for a constructive, specific goal when a person is of an employable age is a separate issue. At the end of the perek the Alter Rebbe clearly says that that's legit. I'm talking...
Forum: Chinuch 02-19-2009, 03:41 AM
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Posted By noahidelaws
Limudei chol for girls

Where did people get the idea that chinuch for girls itís less important to ensure that they donít learn limudei chol? The peshat in Tanya perek ches is that the issue of secular studies being bittul...
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