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Forum: Chinuch 09-08-2009, 04:04 PM
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Posted By noahidelaws
Granted, it's preferable to start with Hoidu, but...

Granted, it's preferable to start with Hoidu, but if for whatever reason that would come at the expense of his hachonos of limmud and hisbonenus according to one's level, with the requisite mesinus,...
Forum: Chinuch 09-08-2009, 03:18 PM
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Posted By noahidelaws
It looks like I misunderstood you, Yosef--I'm...

It looks like I misunderstood you, Yosef--I'm sorry.

In any case, I stand by what I said that true arichus hatefilla and davenen with a minyan in general don't go together--of course, not because...
Forum: Chinuch 09-08-2009, 01:59 AM
Replies: 48
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Posted By noahidelaws
I have gone through the Rebbe's igros on tefilla...

I have gone through the Rebbe's igros on tefilla and I have not seen this, and it contradicts the spirit of the igros that I have seen, in which the Rebbe encourages each person to davven slowly at...
Forum: Chinuch 09-07-2009, 01:21 PM
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Posted By noahidelaws
Have you learnt Kuntres Hatefillah and Kuntres...

Have you learnt Kuntres Hatefillah and Kuntres HoAvoda? I highly doubt it. I find your suggestion that not davenen with a minyan in order to prepare and do hisbonenus is coming from some sort of...
Forum: Chinuch 09-06-2009, 10:53 PM
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Posted By noahidelaws
I don't see what's so complicated. Based on the...

I don't see what's so complicated. Based on the Rebbe's firm encouragement of those who engaged in arichus hatefilla, the Rebbe wanted through his example to strengthen davenen with a minyan for...
Forum: Chinuch 09-04-2009, 05:26 PM
Replies: 48
Views: 16,722
Posted By noahidelaws
It's simple. Whoever wants to influence others to...

It's simple. Whoever wants to influence others to do so has to do so himself, and then the hashpo'o will stand a good chance of accomplishing something, just as with any hashpo'o.


Yes, of course...
Forum: Chinuch 09-03-2009, 01:47 PM
Replies: 48
Views: 16,722
Posted By noahidelaws
I don't see why you think I'd have a problem with...

I don't see why you think I'd have a problem with what you say. Of course someone who can't davven properly with a minyan isn't yet holding by arichus hatefilla. However, for the ehrleche people who...
Forum: Chinuch 09-03-2009, 06:15 AM
Replies: 48
Views: 16,722
Posted By noahidelaws
I'd believe that if during the week they would...

I'd believe that if during the week they would daven baarichus.

As for following the Rebbe's example, the Rebbe also davvened Mincha many times long after shekia. Are we to follow that too? We...
Forum: Chinuch 09-02-2009, 12:57 PM
Replies: 48
Views: 16,722
Posted By noahidelaws
Until mem-ches, i.e., the overwhelming majority...

Until mem-ches, i.e., the overwhelming majority of the years in which the Rebbe was with us be'almo dein, in general, the Rebbe would davven biyechidus. Why the Rebbe chose to davven betzibur after...
Forum: Chinuch 09-01-2009, 11:09 PM
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Posted By noahidelaws
sheryibu kemoson beYisroel

sheryibu kemoson beYisroel
Forum: Chinuch 09-01-2009, 10:18 PM
Replies: 48
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Posted By noahidelaws
Lots of things weren't done in past times. But if...

Lots of things weren't done in past times. But if you see that it's needed because of the lowliness of the generation, that's not necessarily an argument; you do it. And in this particular case you...
Forum: Chinuch 09-01-2009, 03:55 PM
Replies: 48
Views: 16,722
Posted By noahidelaws
All these things that Chabad Chassidus, sichos,...

All these things that Chabad Chassidus, sichos, etc. say about the importance of avodas hatefilla are not taken seriously. Most people don't even register what they're hearing, it's as if it were...
Forum: Chinuch 09-01-2009, 02:52 PM
Replies: 48
Views: 16,722
Posted By noahidelaws
What you're saying is glaringly obvious. It's not...

What you're saying is glaringly obvious. It's not just the way it "seems", it's the way it is. Avodas hatefilla is widely regarded as dead and buried, ch"v.

The Rebbe screamed (see here...
Forum: Chinuch 09-01-2009, 01:51 PM
Replies: 48
Views: 16,722
Posted By noahidelaws
The parents and menahalim need to be a dugma...

The parents and menahalim need to be a dugma chaya!
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