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Forum: Chinuch 09-08-2009, 03:41 PM
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Posted By Fesoy
I am glad were on the right track :twolchai: ...

I am glad were on the right track :twolchai:

Proper davening is critical every day. I use the analogy of a computer that has to re-boot in order to get its operating system and software programs...
Forum: Chinuch 09-08-2009, 09:53 AM
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Posted By Fesoy
I learned that a while ago. IIRC=If I remember...

I learned that a while ago. IIRC=If I remember correctly.
If someone can look it up, I would appreciate it.



Let's review:
Forum: Chinuch 09-07-2009, 08:04 PM
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Posted By Fesoy
Referring to the Sicho that Noah linked to about...

Referring to the Sicho that Noah linked to about the Rebbe wanting us to daven the way it requires in Kuntres Avoda, and Tefillah: The Rebbe asked when was the last time we meditated for an hour or a...
Forum: Chinuch 09-07-2009, 05:51 PM
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Posted By Fesoy
It seems that you are referring to my post but,...

It seems that you are referring to my post but, are taking what I said completely out of context. The tshuva I am referring to is when someone comes late to daven. You can take everything you learn...
Forum: Chinuch 09-07-2009, 10:06 AM
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Posted By Fesoy
Not for everyone.

Not for everyone.
Forum: Chinuch 09-06-2009, 11:34 PM
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Posted By Fesoy
I think that I can figure out what you mean but...

I think that I can figure out what you mean but your sentence "Based on the Rebbe's firm encouragement of those who engaged in arichus hatefilla" wasn't completed.

It is my understanding that the...
Forum: Chinuch 09-04-2009, 05:52 PM
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Posted By Fesoy
Did you mean that copying the Rebbe's davening...

Did you mean that copying the Rebbe's davening with the minyan is not for us to copy? That was the context of your quote:
Forum: Chinuch 09-03-2009, 06:24 PM
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Posted By Fesoy
The title of the thread is "Motivating and...

The title of the thread is "Motivating and Educating our children to daven properly". The questions are what exactly is proper? and assuming that davening b'avoda is proper, how do we teach that...
Forum: Chinuch 09-03-2009, 04:07 PM
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Posted By Fesoy
Thank you. That very well could be what is in my...

Thank you. That very well could be what is in my mind.




My issue is not with davening b'arichus. It was with your argument that we can't learn from the Rebbe's example of davening with the...
Forum: Chinuch 09-03-2009, 10:34 AM
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Posted By Fesoy
I'm not so sure that we can extract kavonos from...

I'm not so sure that we can extract kavonos from a discussion on davening properly.



The highlighted above are all important aspects to davening properly.
Forum: Chinuch 09-03-2009, 09:45 AM
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Posted By Fesoy
It's been a while since I heard about them, hence...

It's been a while since I heard about them, hence my "IIRC". I was in part referring to the R"H davening and perhaps other times as well. My memory is not very clear on this.
Most likely it was...
Forum: Chinuch 09-02-2009, 10:28 PM
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Posted By Fesoy
So, how can we "fault" someone who doesn't daven...

So, how can we "fault" someone who doesn't daven at length, they could be following the Rebbe's example?



There are many things that we learn by watching the Rebbe. Since the Rebbe's davening...
Forum: Chinuch 09-02-2009, 08:56 AM
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Posted By Fesoy
Has davening b'arichus been officially relegated...

Has davening b'arichus been officially relegated as "a thing of the past"?

The kuntres haovodah, and kuntres hatefillah have not been taken off the shelf, but the "leaders" of the khal (again...
Forum: Chinuch 09-01-2009, 09:38 PM
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Posted By Fesoy
I would be happy if the basics of tefilla were...

I would be happy if the basics of tefilla were taught in the Yeshiva.
Forum: Chinuch 09-01-2009, 03:11 PM
Replies: 48
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Posted By Fesoy
Perhaps the lack of ovdim at one end of the...

Perhaps the lack of ovdim at one end of the spectrum is a cause for the lack of a chayus even within a regular davening with the minyan.

I am really concerned about the young children. They...
Forum: Chinuch 09-01-2009, 02:21 PM
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Posted By Fesoy
I think that watching someone daven correctly can...

I think that watching someone daven correctly can be very inspiring. I still remember davening right behind Reb Berkie Chein A"H, in Kfar Chabad, and others who were Tamim in Lubavitch. What a tziur...
Forum: Chinuch 09-01-2009, 09:35 AM
Replies: 48
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Posted By Fesoy
Motivating and educating our children to daven properly?

I wonder if our educational system is going to be successful in "producing" ovdim or even Chassidim who will daven with a geshmak and a chayus?
It seems from my limited perspective that very little...
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