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Proud2BJew 01-04-2012 02:49 PM

Women and Public Prayer - ?
 
[COLOR="DarkSlateBlue"][SIZE="5"]Women and Public Prayer:

Reading from the Torah,
Kiddush,
Davening for the Amud,
Dancing with the Torah?

I would like some explanations on these, based on the laws for women.
Thank you. [/SIZE][/COLOR] :redface:

Kookoo Kabalist 01-04-2012 04:17 PM

What specifically are you asking? The whole public prayer idea, which as you address; reading from the Torah, making kiddush, davening for the amud, and dancing with the Torah, doesn't apply to women. That includes saying kaddish for a deceased parent.

Proud2BJew 01-08-2012 09:10 PM

[B][COLOR="DarkSlateBlue"]The question is basically like, why do girls not go up to the Torah to read? and the other examples mentioned... [/COLOR][/B]

Kookoo Kabalist 01-09-2012 12:03 PM

A couple of reasons off the bat...

Most obviously there's the kol isha problem. Then there's the general problem of a women getting up in front of men, which there are poskim which would rule against this, even if it were merely a speech she was giving (there's a letter in Igros Moshe about this). Then there's the nidah issue... A nidda isn't supposed to come in contact with a sefer Torah and in many congregations they practice this all across the board; meaning that, women won't touch/kiss the Sefer torah. Above that, the chavos yoir ruled that women should not conduct public prayer - such as saying kadish for a deceased parent and similar (as mentioned above) - not to create "new ideas" within yiddishkeit.

In practicing tznius in a mixed setting, it's best that women aren't at the center of attention altogether.

Proud2BJew 01-10-2012 12:35 PM

Thanks so much for your answer. Is it possible to relate me the source or wherever you found the answer?

Proud2BJew 01-12-2012 07:18 PM

More answers would be greatly appreciated!

couldntbe 01-13-2012 02:20 PM

here are two articles on the topic

[URL="http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/160962/jewish/Separation-in-the-Synagogue.htm"]http://www.chabad.org/theJewishWoman/article_cdo/aid/97367/jewish/Women-in-the-Synagogue.htm[/URL]

[URL="http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/160962/jewish/Separation-in-the-Synagogue.htm"]http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/160962/jewish/Separation-in-the-Synagogue.htm[/URL]

Proud2BJew 02-02-2012 02:04 PM

Thanks for the answers so far!
Does anybody else have any input? I would like to know more practical answers.... thanks..


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