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Barera 03-02-2002 06:35 PM

Rinsing Kiddush Cup
 
I have noticed ppl rinsing the Kiddush Cup before they make Kiddush.

1. What is the reason for this?

2. is this a minhag or Halocho?

Meir 03-03-2002 02:31 AM

It's a halocho, in Shulchan Oruch it says you have to do certain things before using a Kiddush cup, one of them is to wash it.

MitzvahMaidel 03-03-2002 11:24 AM

B"H
Doesn't this also have to do with balancing the gevurah of the wine with chesed of water according to the Ari HaKodesh?

Barera 03-03-2002 05:28 PM

Meir, what else should be done to the cup before kiddush?

meyoz 07-14-2002 11:48 PM

According to halocho it has to be rinsed out only if it's dirty, but according to Kabbalah it is rinsed out even if it's clean.

vusveisichuber 07-15-2002 01:53 AM

inside and outside -

IshKoton 07-15-2002 05:34 AM

Zohar says you need to add water to the wine.

Wahoo 07-15-2002 10:09 PM

I have never seen the rinsing of the Kiddush cup before its use done in a Chabad household (of course, the cup is thoroughly washed at some point AFTER it's been used) until one time a Sefardic person came to our house for Shabbos and introduced it to us. So what's with that? Chabad doesn't do it, or what?

Torah613 07-15-2002 10:29 PM

See AR's SA Siman 183

meyoz 07-15-2002 10:31 PM

First of all, the Rebbe used to wipe out his cup by Farbrengens before the wine was poured in. Secondly, it is done in a lot of Chabad households.

Wahoo 07-21-2002 01:10 AM

BTW, what's the REASON for rinsing the kiddush cup?

hishtatchus 08-18-2002 04:47 AM

Can the wiping be a problem of Schita (squeezing)? I hear it's a problem to wipe off a wet table- is it OK to wipe out the [wet] becher with a napkin?

rebbelution 09-16-2002 05:48 PM

in shulchan aruch it mentions rinsing the inside and outside, but doesnt say anything about drying it. i think the Rebbe would shake it (possibly to avoid soaking up on shabbos?).
from S A it seems to apply even to a clean becher too.
what about a plastic cup, does that also require this' shtifa and hadacha' (i know there is a problem bichlal if u can use disposable cups, but that is a separate issue)

trahey 09-17-2002 04:13 AM

i once heard that a second kidush in the same cup, doesn`t requires a second wash. (if it is done one after the other). does anyone knows more about it?

yehonasan 09-17-2002 11:25 AM

I have seen rinsing out the kiddush cup - in fact I saw repeatedly done this past shabbos by several people.

NEW QUESTION: I have seen other Chassidim -- Belz and Satmer -- rinse their kiddush cup and leave a little bit of water in the cup. Then, they pour that little bit of water into the bottle of wine and THEN pour the wine in the kiddush cup in order to make kiddush. I asked and they said it is in the zohar that this should be done. If so, why don't we do this in Chabad?

Paper 09-28-2011 01:40 AM

[QUOTE=trahey;22636]i once heard that a second kidush in the same cup, doesn`t requires a second wash. (if it is done one after the other). does anyone knows more about it?[/QUOTE]

[url]http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=25074&st=&pgnum=397&hilite=[/url]

Might not carry over to here, Kois Sheni there might be a hemshech. What do you think?


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